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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Are zoomers really like this?

[–] Ataraxia@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm 40. I don't even answer the phone if it rings. If it's important they can leave a message.

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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sorry if I don't think minor topics are worthy of the immediate attention needed for a phone call?

Phone calls are reserved for emergencies. Otherwise you're just demanding the instant attention of someone for nothing.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Not demanding, asking. Declining a call is always an option.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

I like to compare calling to someone knocking on your door incessantly for several seconds.

You can ignore it or decline to answer. It's still annoying af.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So why call in the first place? And how will I ever know what the call was about? Unless you text, of course, so why not just do that in the first place?

You may not intent for it to be a demand, but unless you have your phone on silent, it will keep ringing and making noise until you do something about it. It demands an action, and tries to get your attention as much as possible.

Which is why it's designated to emergencies. This makes calling more useful as well, because now you know calls are more important, and can actually treat them with more urgency. Otherwise you're just gonna end up ignoring what may be an actual emergency, because you treat every phone call the same.

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Gen X here, only had a smartphone 5 years as before I was avoiding it. Typing is painful. Just answer the phone and we'll get that query sorted in less time than I would take to type the initial question. Don't be a big baby about it.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 9 points 2 years ago

Millennial here and totally agree. There are times I don't feel like talking and I simply don't answer. How hard is it to answer normally though? If it's not during work hours... If I'm busy I just call back. No idea why this is a weird awkward thing for so many

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If it was not important enough to type it out, you can tell me next time we meet. I'll stop answering your call after the second nonsense call you make.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Such a sense of entitlement. You're not royalty.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nor are you entitled to anyone else's time or attention.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 2 years ago

I never said if someone doesn't answer they're an asshole. Unlike what you're saying about incoming phone calls.

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[–] Ataraxia@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate typing too but having to answer a phone call triggers PTSD. NOPE.

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

If it's genuine PTSD then you have my every sympathy and I hope that you can get some peace from it.

Nobody I'm calling have anything worse than lazyitis.

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[–] SRo@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You have a psychological problem. You in therapy I hope?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on why you think this is a psychological problem?

[–] SRo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I could but I honestly don't want to, it would take time and be a long post. If you really are in therapy you can talk with your therapist about the issue. But so I won't let you go empty handed the simplest point: it's a phone, it's there to primarily make calls. Yes, in the last decade it finally got access to the internet; something I wished for for at least 20 years, but nevertheless, it's a phone. It exists to make phone calls. If that's really a big problem for you it's not the phones problem, it's not the caller's problem, it's your problem.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

lol exactly why my phone is on silent

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

When you decline a call you don't know what it's about. The only thing I can think of when I family member calls and I decline a call is that they needed desperate help/were in an emergency and I just hung up on them.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk -4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Except the problem is I don't know what the call is about so you're asking me to make a except/declined decision with no information.

If you send a text message I have the information.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You don't know what text is about without opening it eather. Precognition is not a common trait.

[–] PaulAtreides@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Best kind of disagreement!

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social -1 points 2 years ago

And yet I can look at it on my own time when I'm not busy with other things

[–] _Lory98_@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Notifications have a preview of the message tho.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have received many scary cryptic texts which the phone calls version would've involved, at worst, 5 seconds of confusion. With the cryptic texts I often have to wait hours to understand. The problem with texting is that people use it even when it's wildly inappropriate to and they don't seem to understand that.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 2 years ago

I feel like it's sort of simple minded to make rules for oneself like people in this thread seem to have done. Context is key.

Am I excited to answer a call from my landlord? Absolutely not, but I'd rather do that and talk for 5 minutes than text for a couple hours about when the repairman is coming or whatever. Calls can be much more convenient than these people with their rules seem to know...

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

But then you are already reading it, and getting partial informarion at that. Worst of both worlds.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

The horror. Just let it ring.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org -2 points 2 years ago

Your time really is not that valuable. No one's is.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Phone calls aren't reserved for anything. They're just phone calls. I'm a huge introvert but it's like in one particular way millions of people decided to try and be the most annoying introvert possible

[–] mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think all zoomers are, but a LOT of the people I know are TERRIFIED of phone calls. I was like that too, before I started applying for jobs and had to make like 3 calls a week.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm a millennial and use to have terrible phone anxiety. It prevented me from being able to get a job for a long time. I would always try to go in person instead because it was less anxiety inducing but never got a job that way.

[–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gen-x'r here who doesn't even have the phone app on my home screen.

Fuck phone calls!

[–] uis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's about outgoing calls. Incoming calls still will be fullscreen pop-ups

[–] Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Depends on the status of the phone when the call arrives.

One thing I enjoy about the Pixel phone experience is the call screening feature. Having a transcript of the callers reason for calling has been a great bonus!

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's more of a Millenial thing. I'm 35 and I don't pick up the phone ever unless it's an emergency or a job interview.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm 36 and if you want to call me, then fine? Who cares? I don't get why it's such a big deal.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 11 points 2 years ago

It absolutely is not a big deal, this thread is bonkers

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do you know it's an emergency if you don't pick up the phone

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago

I don't if you won't text me. So it's on you.

Furthermore, in a real emergency, people tend to blow up your phone. So if someone is calling multiple times, of course I'll answer, if nothing more than to yell at them for blowing up my phone.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also almost 40. Fuck synchronous communications. Inferior in every possible way.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How can you even say that? If that's how you live, no doubt this philosophy causes you issues at least once a week. You'd rather know that [insert major life event] happened...later... and instead of finding out immediately and confirming it/responding to it, you can try to call them later only for it now to be a hassle because they're not answering, and the only email you have goes to some dumbass ai bot. Yeah so much more convenient than picking up a phone on occasion, when it's important

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or the exact same thing happens and you can't even get a response to them because you're relying on a synchronous mode of communication which requires both parties to be engaged at the same time ....

Or you could just send them a message and they'll see it when they look.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Try texting your 80 year old landlord... being a little flexible isn't the chore some of you insist

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

If he wants his rent money he'll figure it out