this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2024
576 points (97.2% liked)

Funny: Home of the Haha

7456 readers
603 users here now

Welcome to /c/funny, a place for all your humorous and amusing content.

Looking for mods! Send an application to Stamets!

Our Rules:

  1. Keep it civil. We're all people here. Be respectful to one another.

  2. No sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia or any other flavor of bigotry. I should not need to explain this one.

  3. Try not to repost anything posted within the past month. Beyond that, go for it. Not everyone is on every site all the time.


Other Communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 112 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 97 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Fr one of the reasons I can't get into anime very much is because of how abstract and inhuman most characters look and behave. I know there are cultural and historical reasons for the style and tropes, but it makes everything completely unrelatable to me.

So I'll forever be one of those guys who's like "Cowboy Bebop is great but that's as far as I go"

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cowboy Bebop (ESPECIALLY the dub) was very much written and "acted" in a "western" style. Same with contemporaries like Outlaw Star and Big O (which is very much a referene to Batman).

In general? Rowdy Roddy Piper once said (paraphrasing) that pro wrestling is about explosive acting and emoting and film is about implosive acting and emoting. And ask anyone who has done theatre (which pro wrestling basically is)) and they'll say something similar. Because when the camera zooms in to that single tear in Ryan Gosling's eye? We can see it. When Ryan Gosling is on the stage behind twelve layers of plexiglass so we don't try to lick his sweat? We can't see that tear and he needs to make a big gesture to make it clear he is having an emotional breakdown.

And that applies to animated content. With very few exceptions (almost all short films), you can't have the level of detail where such a subtle response will be noticed. Even the truly amazing finales of Cowboy Bebop was built on us having learned enough about the characters to fill in the gaps by that point.

So you get the very over exaggerated "acting" styles so that you know this fairly hastily drawn person is really feeling it. And that is true regardless of the country of origin for the cartoon.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you watched cowboy bebop have you ever watched vash the stampede?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean Trigun? Ofc

And GitS and Eva and the other "classics"

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Dorohedoro is definitely one of the stranger anime I've seen in recent memory and even they managed to fit noses on their characters. Caiman also technically has a nose, I guess, or at least he's got nostrils.

I'd also strongly recommend it and it's supposed to get a second season at some point.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

You know what anime has noses and distinctive designs?

My GOAT, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Akuji@leminal.space 4 points 7 months ago

Caiman also technically has a nose, I guess, or at least he’s got nostrils.

Acktshully, he's got a snout, but technically has a nose because of the guy in his mouth 🤓
The adaptation is very solid and faithful, it makes good decisions like cutting mostly irrelevant parts and going for a baroque style for the backgrounds instead of the chaotic, nearly organic style of the manga, which is easier to animate. But if you haven't already, don't wait for the anime, read it, it gets crazier (and makes sense strangely).

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago

This could turn into a thread of its own of people just recommending stuff, but I'm curious if you've looked up any of the current more popular series like Chainsaw Man, Dungeon Meshi (aka Delicious in Dungeon), Jujutsu Kaisen, and the recent Netflix animes like Cyberpunk: Edgerunners and Terminator Zero. I'd say all of them feel like the late night anime that was aired on Toonami back in the 2000s.

I also recommend the movie Redline to everybody because it's such a visual and audio treat. It's like if Hanna Barbera had hired somebody like Studio Ghibli to make a Wacky Racers movie.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

There's some anime I've watched and loved but I had a revelation two years ago about why I was so put-off by the cutesier stuff. My niece was a toddler and we were goofing around with Snapchat filters. She was loving the anime filter and it dawned on me....

...Adult women in a lot of anime have the mannerisms of a literal children. And it certainly didn't help the ick factor when I also realized these are the characters a lot of weebs want to fuck.

Ew ew ewwww. If an anime with an adult cast is described as kawaii, you cannot convince me to watch it.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My biggest issue is that I'll start one highly rated anime which is serious and artistic, and then the moment I invite friends over Netflix decides to fill my recommendations with a bunch of boob service thumbnails.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Look into western anime like Arcane, Avatar, DOTA: Dragon's blood, things like that.

It doesn't feel so... anime. And some of them have legit amazing and "grounded" character design, movement, expressiveness and such.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Add Castlevania to that list

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I watched castlevania, and I liked it fine, but in terms of style/tropes it feels more anime than western anime to me.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting, because Castlevania is a Japanese IP, but is written by Warren Ellis and animated by the same studio as Adventure Time, one of the most beloved series to come out of the 2010s animation boom. Meanwhile DotA: DB is a western IP that was animated by Korean Studio Mir (who have also worked on the final seasons of both Legend of Korra and the Boondocks in the past).

I got more "anime" feelings from DOTA than I did Castlevania, but I also consume more fantasy anime than the average person I think.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

DOTA's plot is kinda over the top, but somehow I feel the writing and general feel is more "western," though looking like LoK may have biased me some. Actually this is probably a bad example.

Castlevania, the way characters move, its drawn, just the general feel of the drama feels more "anime" to me.

In terms of my opinion, maybe its more accurate to state they both straddle the line.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know what, when you mention the movement of the characters, I see what you mean. Castlevania characters move more realistically, but it's still pretty stylized, thus the "almost anime" feeling.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah.

Avatar's obsession with realistic body movement is an exception, but even if you look at stuff with heavy fighting like DCAU, it feels more "grounded" while anime feels more "dramatic." These aren't the exact adjectives I'm looking for, but maybe you get what I mean, and Castlevania and DOTA both veer towards the middle.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You can go far enough but Cowboy Bebop is still the best. Not because of it's graphics.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago
[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago
[–] brossman 39 points 7 months ago (4 children)

source of the image is Golden Boy, the dub is incredible

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 7 months ago

I was just about to say "I seem to recognize this single frame, it's Golden Boy isn't it?" Lmao one of the best animes ever.

[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] k2r@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 3 points 7 months ago

I'm actually in the medical literature as a rare case of a guy who didn't know even though I knew

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 7 months ago

I watched it for the first time last week, I watched it dubbed on accident, and I'm so glad I did.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile modern anime women

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m not one to shame others for their appearance but groin hair extending to the outer hips is a bit odd.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

You're going to need to pick the hair out of your teeth afterwards.

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I actually really love Birdie Wing.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: 1963 anime girl

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, the boy is the exact same shape, which I would describe as a weeble wobble with the limbs and head of a kewpie doll 😂

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, they are robots, so it makes sense!

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ahh yes I forgot, all robots are descended from the original automaton; Sir Weebilus Wobbilus of the Kewpie dynasty.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 15 points 7 months ago

I'd forgotten how much of a stranglehold Ryoko had on me as a youth until a few years back. The hyper possessive attitude was always very appealing to me. I think it only made me uncomfortable because it made Tenshi uncomfortable on the show. (When I was younger I had a difficult time realizing when I had a crush on people/characters.)

Ryoko from Tenshi

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’ve only ever got into anime shows for their quirky story or character personality development.

Not once was it for the design or terrible animation. If I ever do refer to breathtaking anime it would be studio ghibli but that’s about it. And even given its age, today’s anime really can’t compare. They just wouldn’t put in the work like they once did.

Not surprised a lot of kids get deep into it and then drop it fast as they grow older. Cutesy wears off when that’s the only thing going for it. It gets annoying after a while.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

The scope and ambition of certain animes like Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Berserk I can appreciate. I was never a weeb, but I barely watch any anime these days. My kids got me to watch Demon Hunter (which I've only seen like a single movie of and didn't see the point) and My Hero Academia which is also not my cup of tea.

Studio Ghibli is pretty good, though. I like the depth, but sometimes they are so abstract and ethereal that my brain decides I'm already asleep and I just nod off. It's usually worth it to watch a few times to try to get everything. Princess Mononoke was really a struggle. It's a great anime, but I had to watch it a good 6+ times before I could stay awake through it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

[sad pug noises]

load more comments
view more: next ›