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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 145 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (36 children)

Reminder: "US bad" is not a valid argument for "Russia good"

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 31 points 6 months ago

Yes, it's literally non sequitur. And a very popular propaganda move: [country A] is good because [country B] is worse. In fact, it usually is not even relatively good if there's a need for such 'argument'

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

*confused tankie noises

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 141 points 6 months ago (10 children)
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 110 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

(in a similar vein)

There is a third choice, where you say both are bad (ie. anarchists and pure marxists). But most people on lemmy.ML are Marxist Leninists (ML) who simp for authotarian states that call themselves socialist, like Russia, China, and North Korea.

[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

russia does not even pretend to be socialist

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 7 points 6 months ago

that's the craziest part to me! fuckin' tankies acting like a hyperfascist regime is their ally is bonkers

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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Stalin says to Kropotkin: "The difference between us is that you're an aristocrat while I'm from the working class."
Kropotkin answer: "True, but we also have something in common: We are both class traitors."

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

They're just fascists.

[–] obre@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

The tankies are out in full force in this thread.

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Every time this gets reposted I need to point out that it is spelled: "You are not an anti-imperialist"

English is stupid.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

French:

A beautiful man:

Un <= masculin (A)

Homme <= masculin (Man)

So the adjective should be masculine, right?

But as homme 1) starts with a H and the word does not have nordic descent, it's not the masculine 'beaux' but feminine :

Un bel homme.

But not belle eh, just bel (they obviously sound exactly the same).

Because, it sounds better.

Which language was stupid now again?

It's crazy humanity can communicate at all.

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

but neither are necessary. someone could just be anti imperialist.

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[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Man, why did I stumble on this thread after the tankies got deleted

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 17 points 6 months ago

Simping for any government leadership is just gross. These people don’t actually care about protecting the working class; they just want power, money, and recognition. As soon as you put a human into that role, they corrupt in one way or another. It’s why I clarify that I support the struggling working class under any ruler. The fight is always about them and ensuring they have human rights and a right to self-determination.

Every person I’ve met in my lifetime that lived under communism had nothing good to say about it, and they were all working class. Some pasty white dudes in America don’t know shit about that and never will. They get into a fantasy loop because living under capitalism fucking sucks, and dreaming about something perceived as better is understandable.

I recommend people read Marx and keep trying to unite the working class. Take the good pieces and stop idolizing people. As soon as you idolize a person, you are incapable of being able to identify when they do or say something terrible.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for your notifications OP, I went through the same thing when I posted this here.

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

First it was fun watching the argument unfold. Now it's annoying lol. Thank you, kind stranger.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Should we start a peer-support group?

[–] BerenstainsMonster@kbin.earth 6 points 6 months ago

Sure! Maybe we can be called Survivors of Poking the Campist Hive lmao.

[–] istdaslol@feddit.org 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pro Tipp: turn off notifications; just post a spicy comment and return 6h later to view the carnage

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[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

lol pootin. RIP BOZO

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