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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 133 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I'm amused by the implication that Russians and Ukrainians have a strong, brotherly bond; but that Russians are perfectly fine with shooting their brothers, taking their brother's land. Even the cheery Russian propaganda paints Russians as monsters.

[–] volodymyr@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

They are saying that they only destroy westernised deviations, liberating true pure Great Russia. Some Russians really believe that. Turns out this "deviation" is the entire Ukrainian nation, tens of millions of humans.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I know some brothers who are like that. Maybe a brotherly bond isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Considering that the second story in the bible is about the first brother to ever exist being killed by the second one, maybe it is. /s

[–] volodymyr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It is just a very unequal brotherly relation. And big brother just cannot accept he is not welcome.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

Not brothers like the twins in Breaking Bad. More like Data and Lore.

[–] spite@kbin.social 87 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Jesus Christ. What fucking bond? My fiancée is Ukrainian. They fucking hate Russians. Not just now but always. They tried fucking with Ukraine for forever, even before there was Ukraine as it is now.

This is just weeb shit but for slavic nations

[–] volodymyr@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I am ukrainian and I confirm.

There are brotherly ties, relatives, but it's not a healthy family, russians always thought they are the only ones that matter, the rest is deviation.

Now it's so much more clear, ukrainians who were russian speaking and mildly russian friendly now hate russia more than anyone, being bombarded does that, they feel betrayed.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I knew a Ukrainian in ~2016 who was SUPER into Russia. He and his family all spoke Russian more frequently than anything else and would talk about Russia all the time. I didn't understand it, but kind of assumed it was the norm. The last couple of years have made me very curious about him

[–] volodymyr@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Plenty of ukrainians speak russian at least sometimes. Even now. Freely. It is possible to speak russian in Ukraine more freely than to speak russian in totalitarian Russia.

Some ukrainians liked russia, most of them stopped. Some might still do, but out of hundreds I know, from east and west, north and south, not a single one does.

[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

This is just weeb shit for slavs

New quote unlocked. Thank you.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

hell don't most people around russia detest the country? like even if two countries with slavic influence hate each other they will probably shake hands on hating russia more..

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Russification doesn't leave many friends

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

That last sentence got me.

I bet they think Israel and Palestine are happy friends too

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately vatniks are too dumb to acknowledge that milk went bad, and will continue to drink it like nothing happened

[–] Bigmouse@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Would you look at that! NATO shat in my pants again"

[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have an unhealthy fascination with far right shit heads, chief among them Alex Jones. And as an avid listener of Knowledge Fight I can tell you that the predictions once the invasion started didn't just age like milk; Enough cheese was made to feed the entire sub-saharan subcontinent.

[–] Earthprototype@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

A few months later...

[–] FinallyDebunked@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Giving that they had been already shooting up each other in dpr the post is a satire