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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 96 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

There must be some rule of film that forbids 13-19 year olds being on camera. Young children are played by actual children. Elderly people are played by the elderly. But teenagers are almost always someone between 20 and 30 and not an actual teenager. What's up with that?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 86 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

The labor laws for children (<18) in film are brutal. As they should be. Better to avoid the whole thing unless really necessary. Extras definitely won't be under 18.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Sometimes extras have to be kids, so filming can stretch out a few days.

Knowing there's kids on set can actually be nice, because you know there's only so long they can shoot for, instead of stretching a Friday night out indefinitely. Especially if it's a director like Fincher who is known for doing a lot of takes.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 33 points 5 months ago

Acted as a kid, mainly in locals and some true crime shows for New Dominion Pictures, back before the true crime mania.

This one lady who was on a lot of the same projects I was on called me "her little guarantee" meaning she got to get home to her kids at reasonable hours because I was on set. Lol

[–] CybertoothTiger@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, when possible they just shoot the stuff with the kids first then pivot to scenes without them to finish out the day. Not always the case though!

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[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

Not to mention you don't want underage actors in explicit scenes. So with shows like euphoria is kind of impossible to use people actually that age

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[–] corvi@lemm.ee 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Something that a lot of replies are missing is how quickly and dramatically we change appearance at that age. Imagine if filming runs over a year and the 14-year-old you hired is now a foot taller and the shape of his face changed through puberty. Sure, little kids grow fast, but features don’t change nearly as much, especially for boys in their teens.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's what happened to Walt in Lost. The actor had growth spurts and couldn't play a 10 years old anymore and they just written his character out.

[–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd bet there's a 'sweet spot' for age where the average person watching a movie can mentally overlook the adult in a teen role, while children and elderly can't be portrayed by a different age without it being a deliberate effect choice or farcical (though when I was learning makeup effects, I saw a ~25 year old turned convincingly into a 60+ person). Maybe it has to do with ease of an adult actor compared to a teen, or maybe it's because there are just more of the 'young' adult actors in the pool than readily accessible teenage actors. Maybe the hiring team wants to ensure they have someone who can act without being taught during the production, and the slightly older actors have more proven track records?

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As an example of the makeup to age someone: The actor that played "Mr. Six" in the 6 Flags commercials in the US was actually 29.

I remember a coworker saying, "I've heard rumors he's not that old..." Yeah, no kidding, Angela.

(Also, while researching this comment, I came across the fact that Dan Snyder, prior owner of the team that is now the Washington Commanders, is the guy that killed that wildly popular series of commercials. Another example of his bad instincts, and demonstrating that he should leave things to the experts. Many people remember Mr. 6, but practically no one remembers the 6 Flags commercials that followed.)

[–] superkret@feddit.org 18 points 5 months ago

Directors simply like to work with adult actors more than to deal with teenagers.
Younger actors have less experience.
Teenagers are legally required to take longer breaks and can't work into the night.
And if you're planning on a sequel or a series, you have no idea what your actor will look like in 2-3 years.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Perhaps something related to child labour laws making it more complicated to hire minors?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Shorter days for the kids also increases the cost of making a movie and makes crunch time harder too.

There are certainly incentives for using young adults in place of teenagers.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bo Burnham’s “Eighth Grade” features a 13-year-old playing a 13-year-old. He said he wanted to capture the natural awkwardness and self-consciousness that we all experienced at that age.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There's a handful of movies where it totally works. The kids in Stand By Me were all the right age and Rob Reiner got incredible performances out of them. It might be a little bit harder, but it can be done.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Great point and excellent movie. Come to think of it, it was very common through the 80’s. The Sandlot, The Goonies, The Lost Boys…any Cory movies lol

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Speaking of King movies, the kids in IT knocked it out the park. King's great at taking you back to your childhood. "Yep, that's exactly how we thought, talked and acted." Sometimes though, his child characters are a bit ahead of their age.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago

zits, probably

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz is supposed to be 12 years old. Been this way since the day the world turned to color.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

Oz plays weird tricks on Dorothy, her age is all over depending on who is talking about her. I'm pretty sure the book has her at 11 the first time she visited Oz

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

To be fair, Grease is a parody, and that was part of what they were parodying at the time. So they went a little extra with it too.

It's a parody of the super common "beach fling" style of movies from the 60's. They even reference some common actors and actresses from those movies.

It's why each scene seems so poorly tied together, and the characters aren't very consistent.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Like the whole final number with Sandy in full leather suddenly being the sex asker.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Never seen the movie, is it any good? Still worth watching in 25?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you like musicals it's considered a pretty good one. It's really about the songs more than anything else.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I always consider grease to be like porn but for music.

The plot is just there to get the actors into the next song.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 35 points 5 months ago
[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just like my boy Jotaro Kujo

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

That's just Japan being Japan. Every JRPG ever ''He's a grissled war veteran that lost a civil war in his country and then fought in the war for our county, betrayed by his brother and framed as a traitor he's long been forgotten by everyone rotting away in an isolated prison cell'' Blood Type A, age 19.

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So is the dude next him. Neither are passible.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Lol, that dude is John Travolta

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Yes, that's the point.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He was 24 when Grease was made.

The guy next to him is Michael Tucci, who was 32 at the time.

Luke Perry at the beginning of 90210 was the same age as Travolta. Then later on the same age is Tucci in the same series.

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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Yea and he is like 23 iirc when filming that. Don't get me wrong that other guy is probably older, 23 isn't terrible for an actor playing a teen. But he does not look like a teenager.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 22 points 5 months ago

That's what you get for smoking as a teenager.

[–] horrorslice@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 5 months ago

Vsauce - Did People Used To Look Older? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjqt8T3tJIE

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

lol damn Tucci was 32 in 1978. i was gonna say "young people look older when they look like they're from a bygone era" but nope he was literally just 32

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

There used to be less microplastic in the water supply. Taints were bigger.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Michael Tucci, born in '46. He was 32 here.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Got that stereotypical leather skin boomers got from growing up with smoking indoors and no sunscreen.

[–] FPSXpert@discuss.online 7 points 5 months ago

Don't smoke, kids, or you'll look like this 😂

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I was able to grow a full beard in 10th grade so this isn’t that unrealistic.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One of my classmates started having a receding hairline when he was 15. He was always able to buy alcohol (the age is 19 in Ontario).

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you got held back 4 times.

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[–] coherent_domain 5 points 5 months ago

JAV: first time?.jpg

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