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White House talks break down as Trump accuses Zelenskyy of ‘disrespecting’ US

White House talks between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy over ending the war between Moscow and Kyiv have broken down after the US president said his Ukrainian counterpart had “disrespected” America.

The dramatic and premature conclusion to the summit came after the two leaders clashed even before the start of their formal meeting, as the Ukrainian president’s bid to improve strained ties with Washington spectacularly backfired.

In a post on Truth Social following the meeting, Trump wrote: “I have determined that President Zelenskyy is not ready for Peace.” 

“He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for Peace,” he added.

During an earlier meeting in front of reporters in the Oval Office, Trump told Zelenskyy: “You don’t have the cards right now with us, you start having problems right now. You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people. You’re gambling with world war three.”

Vice-president JD Vance said: “Do you think that it’s respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?”

The Ukrainian leader responded: “Everybody has problems, even you but you have nice ocean and don’t feel [it] now, but you will feel it in the future.”

Zelenskyy has been seeking a seat at the negotiating table after Trump blindsided Kyiv and other European capitals by launching direct talks with Putin over ending the conflict.

The leaders had planned to use the meeting to sign a minerals deal that would set up a joint US-Ukrainian “investment fund” that would receive 50 per cent of all revenues from the “future monetisation” of natural resources owned by Kyiv.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 154 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Video of the full debacle: https://www.c-span.org/program/white-house-event/president-trump-meets-with-ukrainian-president-zelensky/656418

This wasn't a "clash", it was schoolyard-tier bullying by Trump and his lapdog Vance. I would however not expect the malicious and sycophantic American press to be honest about this.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to misrepresent this as anything but Trump throwing a tantrum.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 months ago

And yet the American luegenpresse never fail to disappoint.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

I have even more admiration for Zelenskyy after that. He kept his cool through the completely inappropriate behavior, while respectfully maintaining his stance. His commitment to his people over his own ego made him the only adult in the Oval Office today.

This was humiliating for Americans. I would’ve been less embarrassed had JD started fucking the Oval Office furniture.

[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 137 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

Fucking hate this shit. Couldn’t watch it. I’m a Ukrainian living in the US.

Brings me some comfort to see many people on here agree that Trump is a fucking jackass.

I would go to some online forum for support, but I’m afraid of encountering some aggressive jackasses, saying something to the extent of “fuck Ukraine. We have our own problems.”

If someone has any words of support or something positive to say, I’m here for it, because this is depressing.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago

"I heard it from Putin."

That's really what was going on there.

[–] Dashmezzo@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Just a guy from the UK here. But this was horrific to watch, I felt for him and all Ukrainians. We stand with you. We will fight with you. We support you. My family fought in WW2 because it was the right thing to do, not because there was money in it or because we were next, but because it was right. We will do it again if necessary.

[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

This means so much to me just to know that there are people who feel this way. Can’t tolerate all the negativity towards Ukraine anymore. Some people don’t know what they’re talking about, but just like being angry about shit. But my relatives are there! So yea, Thank you from the bottom of my heart for these words!

[–] onecarmel@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I’m sorry. There’s a lot of us that agree with you and are disgusted by this. This was hard to watch - I’ve never seen a US president act so childish when given the opportunity to oppose an ACTUAL dictator.

Any true American knows that Putin is a threat to the world and democracy. He won’t just stop with Ukraine.

Trump and Vance are cowards in the face of real evil.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 95 points 4 months ago

It was always going to end like this, Krasnov is operating to procedure.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 83 points 4 months ago

Wow, to watch Zelenskyy's face fall when he realized there was no intention of trump doing anything for Ukraine. He was trying to fix shit in his head, but I don't think he got there.

Vance is a turd.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 74 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Watching America collapse in real time.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And we're going to take down everyone else that we can.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Which will mostly impact Canada and Ukraine. Other nations will suffer economic losses, which will cause periods of global instability. Most will have to adapt to the new multi-polar world and watch to see how quickly and how far America slides

Will democracy return? Will the Fascism escalate? We'll see.

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[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 67 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I am so fucking sick of this pathetic piss baby bullshit. This fucking traitor and his cock holster have no right to disparage Zelenskyy, whilst polishing putins knob and trying to ~~blackmail~~ extort an ally into giving away their countries natural fucking resources. The level of treacherous, inane bullshit being spouted by these stupid fascist fucking fucks comes across like it's from some poorly written trash novel trying to really spell it out for the reader how absurdly terrible these people are.

I tell ya, I'm this close to volunteering for the fight in Ukraine myself, just so I have a chance to literally fight fascism, because the idea of sitting on my hands any longer is becoming detrimental to my health.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 67 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Kids are growing up and watching their President behave this way on TV, not knowing any other. The US are cooked for generations.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't think the US survives this honestly.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I agree. The US is nothing more than a stumbling zombie at this point.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

This depresses the ever loving fuck out of me as a father. When I was a kid, I genuinely looked up to the president, and the thought that if I worked hard, I could conceivably (with very slim odds) be president one day. Now, my kids will see that the way to succeed is to lie, cheat, steal, and grift. It's fucking disgusting.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump never planned to make an agreement with Ukraine. The agreement, as one-sided as it was in the US’ favor, was getting close to becoming reality, so Trump torpedoed it in order to appease Putin.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The whole meeting was pure propaganda, it's why it was so openly streamed live, even though there was no intention of signing the deal.

I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_Nazi_Germany#In_power_(1933%E2%80%931939)

Especially easy to do after the Trump administration purged media dissenters

[–] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kinda surreal to hear a president say unironically, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Hillary Clknton, Obama in quick succession with no actual thought.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 36 points 4 months ago

"Bing bing bong bong bing bing."

The weave, everybody!

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 4 months ago

Trump and Zelenskiy press conference is canceled. Zelenksiy leaves White House early after contentious meeting with Trump.

[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Trump broke Budapester Memorandum + Trump was giving Putin the start signal for the war. You cant trust terrorists

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

I just watched the last half of the full meeting. Zelensky asked what guarantees there are the Russians won't just invade again. The subtext of which is an offer to house US troops in Ukraine. But all the fucking clown car heard was a challenge to their machismo.

So they shouted him down and just loudly asserted he would either sign their deal or fight it out. Along the way they manage to insult him by treating him like a child and pretending that previous broken agreements, (invasion of Crimea, Invasion of Donetsk, and Invasion of Ukraine) were because Putin didn't respect the American President enough. But Putin is also the victim in all of this according to Trump.

I've seen better diplomacy from a high school football team.

For more subtext, if there were any real guarantees then this would not have happened in the meeting with the press. Zelensky would have told reporters there were guarantees. This entire blow up means that Trump already told him there would be no guarantees other than the honor system. Which, even if Trump is right, (Putin respects Trump and won't invade while he's president), Zelensky knows that means Putin will invade again in 2028 after Trump's term is over. And that's without getting into all of the implications about Putin holding this over Trump's head for concessions so Trump can appear to be the peacemaker.

I agree with Trump on one thing. We're fucking around with World War 3, but Trump isn't a peacemaker, he's Chamberlain. Right down to berating the leaders who are asking for help to stop the aggressive country.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is what happens when your leaders are too stupid to understand diplomacy. It's also what happens when they're working for the interests of Putin.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

working for the interests of Putin.

I seriously don't understand the endgame here. I know wealthy elites and war criminals don't seem to have borders, and just grow like an invasive fungus wherever is favorable, but the entire reason this prick even ran was just to avoid jail for his numerous crimes in the USA.

What does he get if he gives Putin everything? What does he get if the USA just friggin' collapses? What does he get if he starts WWIII? Do he and his bully cohorts retire to Switzerland or something? Hide out in hidden mansions in South America?

What is the motivation for this absolute insanity?!

I know rightoidism is a death cult, but is the plan to literally Judgement Day the planet or create an unstoppable Russo-Chinese world duopoly or what?!

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[–] onecarmel@lemm.ee 33 points 4 months ago

Fucking hell, what a bunch of clowns this administration is.

Guess it’s just a matter of time now before Putin says fuck it and goes all out on land grabs. Clearly these dipshits never bothered to educate themselves on the escalation of WW2….

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A lovely little display for Russian state media to play out tonight. "Look at the west fighting themselves, soon the war will be over!"

Look at the part where he says it's "disrespectful to THIS country". I think he had to catch himself there to stop him saying it's disrespectful to someone else. Like anyone involved in the mob, you invoke the name of your boss and let them know he's unhappy when you are trying to intimidate someone.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's up to you now, Europe.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If only it were just that simple. Now, whenever there is an election here, we gotta deal with russian, Chinese and US state interference...

[–] match@pawb.social 7 points 4 months ago

You can't keep playing defense forever

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Beyond furious with Trump and Vance.

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

‘Zelensky’s meeting with turd and soup degenerates into shitfight as turd shits himself and falls off his chair while VP soup almost chokes on his own tongue and has to be resuscitated by marshals’

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This 2 idiots ganged up on him

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[–] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

This is shameful!

[–] LaoisheFu@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Haven't read it but here's my guess as to its contents:

Chapter 1: "Repeat yourself and rant and scream and claim how offended you are from an (imagined) mighty position of power while demanding more respect and groveling."

Chapter 2: "Keep repeating your demands to warp reality like some Jedi mind trick until your opponent is so psychologically worn down from your broken record-like diatribe increasing in volume, they give in."

Chapter 3: "If they finish a sentence, you've already lost"

The rest of the book is blank.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago

Haven't read

Neither has Trump.

His ghostwriter did his best with the limited information Trump gave him to work with.

[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Krasnov gonna krasnov.

[–] LettucePrey@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

hell is empty and all the devils are here

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

The orange clown was cranky. Clearly he needed to go to sleep. I don't understand why they are so angry at Zelensky. Right? They should be like riding the freedom wave with Zelensky... "Proving" to everyone how good the Republicans are. Instead they are arguing or whatever the fuck their mouth noises were about. It was fucking funny. Like watching the Koreans fight it out in Congress. The Mexicans literally have never had a shit show like that since Zedillo. Even then there was not much of a shit show.

Yeah, we're sooo fucked. I'd pull out all and any investment I still have anywhere in the US. Monday is gonna be a black stock dropping Monday.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago

I can hardly watch this. Fills me with anxiety

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