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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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All posts should follow this basic structure:

Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
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Some acronyms you might see.

PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
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"Rules for thee, not for me" - An ML and I both accuse each other of not being leftists on lemmy.ml. As always, the ML gets away with it, and the anarchist gets (temp) banned (reddthat.com)

submitted 4 months ago by OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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What makes this worse is the obvious disrespect from Cowbee of my request to disengage. I made it very clear I didn't want to argue. These communities have absolutely no standards of behaviour for members of the in-group. Which is exactly why I don't engage with them in these communities.

Well, also the fact that I hate being constantly called a liberal for not repeating Capitalist Putin's latest botfarm talking point. Talking to these people is an exercise in keeping my calm while I am constantly insulted. No thank you.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe there's more context here that I'm missing, but from what I can see...

YDI/BPR

If you don't want to argue, stop typing or block them. Real childish pot stirring behaviour going on there. You can't try and get the last word in by saying "don't respond to my criticism."

[+] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com -14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I don't want to argue, but I do want to get the last word in, and I also want to explain that my reason for not arguing is that I know Cowbee by reputation and I refuse to be sealioned and trolled by him. I'd be very happy to say my piece without any sealioning and trolling, which is what I tried to make happen, but alas, once again he used the old "Why won't you talk to me :(", just like my ex does when she's been drinking.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 21 points 4 months ago

Those are essentially mutually exclusive...

If someone wants to argue with you, and you want to disengage, you have to accept that you're not going to get the last word in no matter how many times you say "don't argue with me" - cause you can't control what they can say afterwards.

This is especially true, and comes off as childish, when you're the one that baited that argument in the first place with "your piece".

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This reminds me of the behaviour in young siblings where one will initiate, and when the anticipated response comes, they launch in to "Mom, they're touching me!"

You clearly do want to argue, you just don't want to be argued back with. Either that, or you're just trying to provoke a response.

[–] graphene@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Number 1 rule in online arguments: "Do not feed the trolls"

If you even suspect someone is a troll, block immediately.

There is absolutely nothing to be gained from a proper "Internet argument", and against a troll you will not only not gain, but lose, your sanity. I don't know who Cowbee is or what they stand for neither do I particularly care, but I can and will tell you, that for your own good, you must have a 0-tolerance policy towards trolls. Do not try to get the last word in, down that path lies madness and neverending pointless back and forth. Even in good faith.

Also, when in a situation such as the one this post (that this is a reply to) is in, please keep in mind that a large amount of even mild criticism coming from several different people can feel nasty and personal. Especially on forum like places, such as where we are currently. Please try to detach your sense of identity from whatever behaviour you exhibited before analysing it and criticism against it.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago

He didn't accuse you of not being a leftist, he accused the Democrats™ of that.

Your comment there as well as your description as an anarchist seem to imply that your are not a Democrat yourself but you merely want them to win instead of Trump (lesser evil and all that).

You apparently called them a Trump supporter (which is calling someone not a leftist as you admit you did).

You feel disrespected by people arguing with you after you argued against the original post. Then you come here and say the quiet part loud.

I don’t want to argue, but I do want to get the last word in

... YDI

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

Why even waste time on lemmy.ml?

[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ignoring the points of the argument, you have to tell them to "disengage" with nothing else posted in your comment to them. I have a troll following me around every time I talk about a certain topic and the only way to get them to stop (for a brief moment) is to say "disengage." I've made it clear I don't want to talk to them anymore, multiple times, but still I have to type "disengage" every time they reply to me the same exact bad faith shit they always say.

If you don't want to deal with them altogether, you have to consider blocking them. The troll I've been dealing with has tried to egg me and others into blocking them, they celebrate each time they get blocked. So I also understand if you don't want to block them, they are miserable people who enjoy feeding on negativity. The fact trolls roam lemmy can dampen your enjoyment, it really does suck.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To elaborate: https://wiki.dbzer0.com/divisions-by-zero/the-disengage-rule

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. What's the value of an explicit "disengage" compared to just not replying?

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

Well for one: silence isn't disengaging sometimes, so they may keep replying.

Sometimes you'd want to add extra context before you disengage too; for this we will take action against people who break the rule (on our instance)

You can't say "Disengage! Also you're stupid." as some "last word own". If that is said then they'll have to deal the consequences; we won't do anything abt it.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

If you haven't blocked .ml yet at this point, that's probably on you

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lay with the tankies, get the tracks.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Fight pigs, get dirty.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago

Similar to @Enkers@sh.itjust.works, I suspect I'm lacking some context here, but based purely on what I can see in this post, you came across as rather childish. I'm inclined to say YDI/BPR.

While I do agree that rule should have applied to Cowbee too, that doesn't give you carte-blanche to do the same.

Also, confronting someone you know to be a troll in an intentionally inflammatory manner, then getting annoyed that they chose to argue with you is like waving a red flag in front of a bull and being surprised it charged at you...

You baited that argument, so I don't have much sympathy for you in that regard.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Forget it, Jake. It's .ml.

If you legit don't want to argue, just disengage. No one owes you silence.

I think this one might legit be a YDI, or close to it.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There sure is a lot of arguing in these comments from someone who said they didn't want to argue.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

They don't want to argue but want to always get the last word in 🙃

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com -2 points 4 months ago

Well we're not on .ml right now, so I'm fine with arguing

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ahhhh, if they'd picked a different rule to cite, it would be a YDI because the comment was borderline against rule 1. But if the mod can't be bothered to cite the right rule out of two rules total, then they're half-assing the job.

I dunno if it's a power tripping bastard. Maybe a LFB? Lazy fucking bastard? Definitely bad moderation though.

Edit: also, you double posted by accident

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I did? I can only see one post from my instance. Both from my profile and from the community. Might be a federation issue?

My comment was against instance rule 2. Which to me suggests an admin must have done the ban. I hate that the .ml admins just number rules and don't say whether they're community or instance rules. It's not transparent to the people who are banned, unless they put in a bunch of work to figure it out.

I intentionally broke rule 2, because .ml users do it all the fucking time. Cowbee does it in this screenshot. We're both accusing each other of not being leftists. He doesn't get punished for it. Why? Because he's an ML and I'm an anarchist. ML users always call anarchists liberals, and it's never dealt with. So I treat them the same way, and take my knocks for it. This post isn't about a ban. It's about the rules being selectively enforced. It's about the ban Cowbee didn't get.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if you intentionally broke the rule, what the fuck are you doing posting it here?

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This post isn’t about a ban. It’s about the rules being selectively enforced. It’s about the ban Cowbee didn’t get.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Dude, if you're running around breaking rules on purpose, to bait mods into removing comments, and temporarily banning you, you're the power tripping bastard, not them.

Also, you showed the conversation. Cowbee didn't do anything ban worthy, by either mods of that C/, or the instance.

You're trying to stir shit, and you should have been permanently banned from the instance because of that.

If anything, the actions taken were extremely lenient with your intent in mind

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

Honestly you probably deserved that one. I think a ban is a bit much but it is only 2 days and you were goading

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Link to thread?

[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

https://reddthat.com/post/36238758/16989551

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah they really do not like it when you call out their game. It's because they actually think they are being clever and that everyone can't already see they are just Trump trolls.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

PTB, not applied consistently. But I also don't see this happening here in this case, so a dash of YDI.

All I can suggest is judicious use of the block user option.

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

YDI.

If you post a claim or an accusation on the Internet, you're expected to back it up. If you don't want to back it up, then don't make any accusations in the first place.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

That’s pretty much what you can expect from .ml. Check the modlogs. SO many comments are removed that don’t even violate the rules.

Additionally, I’ll bet that it was the Jack-booted authoritarian admins that removed you and not even a mod. The mods there are powerless. Admins overrule them all the time.

You’re better off blocking that shithole.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

PTB

.ML is cancer on a good day, literal chinese propaganda on an avg day.

Block the whole instance, nothing good comes from it.