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[–] espentan@lemmy.world 63 points 3 months ago

He shook as he watched her disappear. He thought, "What the f— do I do?"

Too late to ask that now - you wanted a hateful moron in charge and you got your wish.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

I just don’t understand why Trump supporters believe Trump. It was clear that his campaign was influenced by Project 2025, and he had several of its authors at his inner circle. But he claimed he didn’t know anything about it and for some reason his supporters believed him.

And now he’s doing exactly what was promised. None of this should be a surprised. The document was openly published by a think tank, his campaign embraced it, and yet his supporters thought it wasn’t going to happen.

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

I really don't get it either. Trump can say something and his supporters will believe him no matter what.

He could tell a supporter their child is a demon, shoot the kid in the face and they would thank him for it.

I have no idea what to do about it.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

I don't think they cared more than they didn't trust Kamala. It was mysogony. And racism. And we just keep trying to intellectualize stupidity. They're dumb. They don't think it through.

Except for the billionaire faction. They know exactly what they are doing to keep their money where they want it. With them.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Trump supporters...

It was clear that his campaign was influenced by Project 2025

The document was openly published by a think tank, his campaign embraced it, and yet his supporters thought it wasn’t going to happen.

Well, you are talking about a group that, as a general rule, is not known for being readers per se. Also, they are not known for consuming even token "liberal" corporate outlets, and those companies barely covered Project 2025 as-is.

Before last fall's election, I remember talking to someone that mostly votes Libertarian but will vote Republican and gets much of their "news" via things like Rogan and I brought up Project 2025.

them: "But isn't Project 2025 just a liberal conspiracy theory? C'mon...."

me: "Uh, it's a published thing. You can easily find it, download it, and READ it. It's no 'liberal conspiracy theory'. And don's VP wrote the forward to a book from the architect of Project 2025, so if donvict is trying to distance himself from it, he sure has a funny way of showing it by picking "JD" "Vance" to be his running mate...."

them: "..."

Did they bother to look into this? I'm sure they did not. And I'd bet anything they voted Libertarian for Presidential level and Republican everywhere else they could not find a Libertarian candidate, therefore, helping the Republicans. They vote in Colorado, so their thrown-away vote for the presidential race does not matter, but....

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It was clear that his campaign was influenced by Project 2025, and he had several of its authors at his inner circle. But he claimed he didn’t know anything about it and for some reason his supporters believed him.

Project 2025 Tracker for anyone interested which shows how much objectives has been implemented from Project 2025 document:

https://www.project2025.observer/

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

It's pretty simple actually. Do you live in an area where Sinclair controls the local media? It's easy to cast aspersions at these people's intelligence. Pretending like they are somehow working hard to avoid all the evidence and information that we've seen. When the truth of the matter is. They're not avoiding anything. They're simply living in a toxic swamp unaware. Their local broadcast stations telling them how evil Democrats are and how wonderful Trump is. Facts and Truth never really make it to them. And they are denied the ability to be basically informed. Without going against their communities and family. Seeking external information and questioning what everyone else perceives as real.

It's a hell of a trap these cancerous capitalists have managed to erect.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's a religious cult type of mental illness. Don't bother looking for logic because you won't be able to find it.

We'll only be able to understand it when we're able to explain why adults continue to believe in religion and fairytales, without evidence.

[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I just don’t understand why Trump supporters believe Trump.

Simple. It's because they are tragically stupid people. Don't overthink it.

"I love the poorly educated."

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some are. Most aren’t.

Liberal elitism is a rallying point for conservatives, and displaying it does not help matters. Not everyone who disagrees with you is dumb. The more accurate thing is that Trump taps into something that encourages even smart people to not think critically.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It’s quite simple.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

He offers them a spot in the first group. That’s it. That’s all. They have been raised from birth to believe they deserve it, and they’ve been taught their whole lives that the evil democrats won’t let them have it.

You don’t have to be stupid to believe something like that, just abysmally self-centered.

And he’s actually giving it to them, you’ll notice. The first leader they’ve voted for in a long time that did so unequivocally. They’ll walk through fire for him now.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

He's also lazy with no sense of nuance. If there's an easy way to do something, he'll do it. Pardon all Jan 6ers, deport all illegals (or all immigrants), let someone else handle shit, whatever is easiest.

[–] arsenyv@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Concepts of thoughts and prayers.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone who did not vote for this situation, I'm greatly concerned as my spouse is a green card holder and I don't know what to do to keep her safe when she is already supposed to be. I have asked her to always have her green card on her, but what else is possible. ;/

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Move somewhere else that's not run by the Gestapo...it sucks but run... seriously. It's dangerous now to have a green card or hell even have been born in another country and now be a US citizen. These fuckers are going after everyone... I'm waiting for them to start targeting people with foreign sounding last names.

[–] dustyknees@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You know that feeling when you're watching a horror movie and internally you're just screaming at the protagonist "run!" ?

This is exactly how it feels as a non-american watching everything unfold over there. I really hope it doesn't and the people stand up and protect the vulnerable (read: not white) but yeah....if you could give the German Jews one piece of advice in the 1930s, what would it be?

[–] medusadeluxe@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Too bad most of us are too poor to leave.

[–] dustyknees@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's terrible this is happening and the only people who can do anything about is...you. everyday people.

Billionaires have been stacking the deck for decades, keeping you poor and too exhausted to protest to demand better. Fascism has been quietly regaining strength and is now front and centre.

Democrats will not step in and defend you, they're collaborators (except a handful). I think the time for emails and lobbying your rep is quickly passing. I'm afraid you're going to have to take back your country french style, loud and dirty.

[–] dustyknees@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just wanted to add:

I know there are more than a few armchair activists around happy to hand out advice. What's happening in the USA has been a kick in the pants for me to get involved and protect my own country's democracy.

We're all in this together. You are not alone.

[–] medusadeluxe@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, if I was any louder or dirtier with it, I would be in jail. Not all of us are sitting aside doing nothing. Some of us have actively been on the frontlines. It’s annoying having people from the outside assuming that no one is doing anything. Many of us are lobbying, educating, boycotting, making our stances known with our representatives, and doing everything we know to do. The thing is many of the people who actually CAN do something big about it are remaining quiet. But let’s not blame the ordinary, every day people because we are doing all we can.

[–] dustyknees@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

100% and I didn't mean to come off as preachy or condescending because, and you said it, it's not helpful.

I suppose it comes from how surreal this all feels; there are Nazis in the Whitehouse and nobody in the establishment appear to be "doing" anything about it except "picking their battles".... That is just so impotent and rational Americans deserve so much better.

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 1 points 3 months ago

What a stupid fuck. Genuinely, I’ve got absolutely no sympathy for him. This is reality hitting him in the face at highway speed.

You’re finding out, dipshit. Deal with it.

[–] AynRandLibertarian@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

She doge-ed a bullet 😂

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

From the article:

In addition to Muñoz, USA TODAY has confirmed through attorneys, family members and documents that ICE has detained for weeks:

  • a woman in her 30s with proof of valid permanent legal residency,

...

David Rozas, an immigration attorney representing Muñoz, agreed: “Anyone who isn’t a legal permanent resident or U.S. citizen is at risk – period."

Even an immigration attorney can't keep up with how rapidly the fascists are escalating their persecution.

Soon even citizenship won't be enough to stop people who ICE doesn't like the look of from getting deported, if it hasn't happened already.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Soon even citizenship won't be enough to stop people who ICE doesn't like the look of from getting deported, if it hasn't happened already.

Does a ten year old citizen whose parents were undocumented getting thrown out of the US alongside her parents count? Because I saw a news story about that happening recently.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Not quite, on a technicality (the kid "voluntarily chose" not to stay in the US with no guardian), but yes.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

So, donvict was supposed to only take all the other "illegals", I guess.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know the author is wanting me to feel sympathy for this guy and his son for losing a wife and mother but all I can feel is schadenfreude.

Actions and consequences they buckos.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Exactly. He knew Trump would hurt people, and he didn't care. He just thought that other people would be targeted. Typical conservative.

[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Hopefully she vanishes into the system and the POS never gets closure on what happened to her