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As a Canadian, I agree.
So many different alternatives
To be fair, Patagonia is more ethical than some of the EU ones, all things considered.
(Although itโs absolutely ridiculously expensive)
Its not any more expensive than some of the European stuff haha
Scarpa is another good euro outdoor equipment brand
I absolutely love Scarpa. They make the only footwear that really, really, fits my weird feet off the shelf. I just wish they made ski boots for the sane.
The last time I needed to get a jacket, I did some Internet searches and asked in three different stores, one name kept popping up every single time: Vaude seems to take this whole sustainability thing quite serious, manufactures part of their collection in Germany and guarantees fair conditions for work they outsourced.
What's with Vaude?
Decathlon is French I think?
Decathlon is involved with child and possibly slave labor through it's Asian suppliers, also the company still operates in Russia under a barely disguised name.
Yes but a lot of their stuff is made under poor and toxic circumstances by people who get paid very little. Not the best imho
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Drake is a rapist fuck. Use another template.
Here's a directory of backpacking/hiking/outdoors vendors that I have bookmarked and have used a few times.
You can filter results by country( to exclude US) but also check out the cottage industry filter. Those are the little guys who are going to be hurting the most and they make the niche and better quality gear.
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made in china all over the place
Or Taiwan.
Haix shoes are made in Serbia, iirc. I'm wearing nothing else since years. Once had a problem with the lace holders on a pair, they told me to send them back and actually repaired them. I'm kinda convinced.
It seemed like every second person in Amsterdam had a fjall raven pack when I was there.
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Don't get anything made of GoreTex as that is produced by American company W. L. Gore & Associates. Fjellrรคven has decent cotton products that lasts. Personally I prefer Norwegian brand Bergans. You also have Hรคrkila (finish) and Klรคttermusen (Swedish) last one primally focuses on light weight climbing gear
Don't get goretex for the simple reason that the patent has expired anyway so any company can make the exact same product under another name anyway.
Now that is interesting to know!
I was just reading a review of jackets where the praise the goretex brand. Though I guess there's new technology from gotetex
They have a pretty substantial marketing budget to make people believe that their product is better but once the patent expires then that's all you have to rely on, brand recognition.
Vibram is also in the list (IT), and it makes rubber soles (or shoes) that are used by many other brands. I love Garmont for hiking shoes.
Not a recommendation, but just for completeness sake: Supedry Japan is British!
I was surprised by this when I first learned it back in the day, perception make me think it was Japanese (paired with the fact their sizes tend to run small).
I used to love the quality of their t-shirts and jackets; but have struggled to find anything that appealed to me from them over the last few years..
..sad reading their Wikipedia page to see theyโre seriously struggling financially, and this one quote really felt like a kick in the โnads: โA 2023 Observer article referenced critics suggesting that Superdry was a โdadโ brand "beyond redemptionโ.
Sounds like bad corporate decisions more than anything. Lacoste and Ralph Lauren thrived as the epitome of dad brands for decades until they realized they were cool among drug dealers and pivoted to the related aesthetics with shirts that are 80% logos and shit
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a โdadโ brand "beyond redemptionโ.
So it's not Instagram-cool anymore, gotcha/j
Tenaya is a Spanish company that makes some of the most comfortable climbing shoes I have tried.
Using the same trekking boots from salewa for years, still in very good shape.
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Decathlon!
While I sometimes buy some sport equipment here and while they have some very accessible products, you can get much better quality for a bit more expensive. Worth saving money for a month more but have really good hiking equipment (or whatever you are looking for).
Also, I worked for them a few years ago and their policies were very questionable. E.g. sometimes they were throwing away some products but always smashed them (like, with a hammer) so "it cannot be used if anyone finds it".
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I see ads for FjallRaven from time to time and usually I get skeptical of products in ads. Has anyone here used their products?
Yes, It's basically the foundation of outdoor gear in Sweden / Norway.
Very popular and durable
Yeah, awesome durable gear
Polish 4F!
For hiking boots, I cannot recommend Hanwag enough. I've had their Alaska model for years and I'm very happy with them.
Good that you didn't include Jack Wolfskin. Had a few things, really shitty quality.
I thought the north face was a niche podcast group when I first saw the logo (I live outside of USA and EU) and was REALLY disappointed when I learned it's just the same thing as Gucci or something
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I got a few Rab down jackets. When something damaged them I could send them over and for 20-30 euro including shipping back&forth they fixed them!
I really like this instead of buying a new one.
Are there other brands who do the same I wonder?
Patagonia does. But it is American.
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Husky is missing on that list
Orthovox is missing as well. They are German.
I can only recommend La Sportiva hiking, trekking and mountains shoes. Great quality.
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What happened to Trangia? I never see them anymore, its all gas stoves now in outdoor shops in the UK.
I normally use a kelly kettle, but those are quite large.
My Swedish Didriksons jacket is still holding strong since I bought it in 2016
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Idk about their new stuff but I can say my dad's 30+ years old mammut jacket is absolutely unkillable. Really well made with some kevlar pads on the shoulders, elbows etc. It did lose some insulation over time though
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