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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't even worry, the DoD's budget is now large enough to be self-justifying, like a firestorm that consumes oxygen fast enough to create suction.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"If we stopped spending on military pork now, imagine how many jobs would be lost! Now buy the Army some more tanks it has said it doesn't need!"

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 2 years ago

Oh? You're cutting the budget? Perhaps I'll sell these surplus tanks to the Taliban again

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dear God. We've created MIC-Zilla

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I mean, it's not even a recent development.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China IS scary. And the whole reason Russia is getting their ass kicked is BECAUSE of our insane military budget.

Shit take.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't have to be defensive about it, I think it just acknowledges a bit of a public relations tightrope the MIC has to walk. They can't gloat about how we're winning too much (even though they are not just winning, but even doing it with mostly hand-me-downs) or people will start to question whether how much we spend is really necessary. I know why it's necessary, you know why it's necessary, but the average voter doesn't necessarily care.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The average voter sees us spending money on bullets that shoot Russians and they go "Murica fuck yeah!"

Which is pretty much accurate in this case so, cool.

[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don't worry they still got China, and black budget funded cartels and domestic terrorists. If it's really necesary, Sahel and Haiti too.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Hard to believe that Iran didn't make the list. Or any Muslim area like Iraq, Syria, Hezbollah, etc.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago

And when China gets its teeth bashed in trying to invade the Kinmen islands again? Then what?

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

US military doctrine is (and has been since the 50s) that we should be capable of independently being at war with our 2 largest rivals. That's currently Russia and China, but the way India is advancing their military, they'll take over for Russia soon.

[–] Pat12@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

US military doctrine is (and has been since the 50s) that we should be capable of independently being at war with our 2 largest rivals. That’s currently Russia and China, but the way India is advancing their military, they’ll take over for Russia soon.

incoming indian-american leaks just like there were chinese-american leaks recently?

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

India is not US adversary. It also has no homegrown military industry.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago

They're a BRICKS nation that launched their first home built aircraft carrier and they've started building another. They've also been demonstrating all summer how much cheaper their ICBMs are than ours.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They don’t need real justifications and never have.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Theyll find some middle-east or southeast Asian country to "free from oppression" if they need to.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Just make FPV drone legal again. Ukrane is blowing up million dollar tanks with 20 dollar drones carrying grenades. Get a good number of operators, and you can have a 21st century fighting force under a budget.

But, no, can't fly FPV drones without a spotter, ID Transponder, government license, and only in particular special parks designed by the FAA.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

The primary justification is to have leverage if anybody stops using the dollar as their reserve currency