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“It’s an old Disney scam where they slightly rename a series to reset contract terms back to first season,” DeKnight wrote on X/Twitter. “Needs to be addressed by all the guilds/unions and crushed!”

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[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 109 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Makes no sense if it's the same premise, same major characters and basically the same recipe as the original -- which seems to be its selling point. But the mouse fucks over whoever it can.

[–] Steve@communick.news 71 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's going to be some kind of a soft reboot. It won't be the same show. It's not even going to have Karen and Foggy.

I don't know if it'll be good, or not. I just know, it won't be a 4th season of The Daredevil we know.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weird that they didn’t hire back the two best characters on the show, especially since Deborah Ann Woll has made it clear she’s still interested.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Deborah Ann Woll wants to be in their show and Deborah Ann Woll is not in their show, I fear a lot of bad decisions are going into the production of their show.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

“I can say this: they have not called me yet. So, as of now, I am not a part of it,” Woll revealed on a recent episode of the “Inside of You” podcast (via Total Film), hosted by “Smallville” alum Michael Rosenbaum. “I would be thrilled to get to be a part of it. They know where I am. Like I said, I love the character Karen Page. I love telling that story. I feel like I have more to say. But it is up to them what kind of story that they want to tell.”

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/daredevil-deborah-ann-woll-not-asked-marvel-join-born-again-1235435877/

[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That will be the sticking point. If this is a continuation of the Netflix series, resetting the contract terms will be messed up.

If it's not a continuation, it's still kind of messed up that they're going with the less generous contract terms. I also personally think that would be a bad decision just from a creative standpoint. People wanted more of the Netflix Daredevil, not Disney-fied Daredevil with some of the same actors.

[–] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Get ready for CGI fest Daredevil. Remember him doing CGI backflips and shit in She-Hulk? Welcome to Disney's Daredevil haha.

[–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

its gonna be unwatchable

[–] skellener@kbin.social 77 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Unchecked corporate greed continues… Support the writers and actors! ✊

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Unchecked corporate greed" has been the primary theme of 2023.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

For the last couple centuries

[–] skellener@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We were able to reign it in a bit when corporations and the rich were heavily taxed and unions were much stronger and more prevalent. The last fifty years have eroded that away. We need the reign it in again. ✊

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah we need to dismantle it. If reign it in last time didn't work why would this time be different?

[–] skellener@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Absolutely.

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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

They mention that it is "an old Disney scam", are there other examples of this? I can't think of any but I'm curious to know how those other examples played out.

[–] El_Gryphon@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The suite life of Zach and Cody changing to the suite life on deck

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Interesting. I looked up this show and it looks like it kept the same creator credits. I do wonder if there was some secret behind the scenes things going on, or if some other shenanigans happened (obviously if it's supposed to be a secret, it's hard to find.)

[–] ItsTom87@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago

The Disney kids shows where the last season or 2 are in an entirely new location than the first ones. Suite life on deck is an example

[–] rustymitt@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Disney has done this with all the kids shows for years for the same reason

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 20 points 2 years ago

It's one of their go to moves on Disney channel for their popular series. Suite life, Hannah Montana, lab rats, Liv and Maddie.

[–] EliasChao@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

“Hannah Montana” changed to “Hannah Montana Forever” for its final season.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not being sarcastic, check out every single Disney series that runs longer than a few seasons. Every. Single. One.

Much like a CEO that gets fired by the shareholders if he misses and avenue for profit, I have no doubt that CEO would fire producers that didn't do the same thing.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I thought his inclusion in She-Hulk was fun, and it was nice to see a more lighthearted take on the character. Having said that, though, I hope the tone of the Disney series is mostly like the original.

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. What I wish from Marvel television is a buch of different series, different genres, and tones, who still exist in the same world and occasionally interact with each other. Thats what Marvel comics do.

[–] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We were getting that with the Netflix and even ABC shows. Sadly, they've gone for quantity over quality with the Disney+ shows and nothing TV-MA exists in the MCU anymore. The new book that shows the official timeline completely leaves out all shows that weren't made for Disney+.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is the worst part. It's so watered down now. So many Marvel and SW shows I'm just never going to watch, especially since my experience with the last few has been so bad.

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[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tbf daredevil has never been lighthearted

[–] Dreamweaver@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago

Really, not even the issues where Daredevil pretended to have a twin brother, Mike Murdock, to throw Karen and Foggy off his trail after Spider-Man sent them a handwritten letter telling them he knows Matt is Daredevil?

I mean I certainly prefer the grittier Daredevil that Frank Miller helped define, but initially he was kind of a knockoff of Spider-Man and had some sillier adventures

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[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Fuck Disney.

[–] realcaseyrollins@narwhal.city 8 points 2 years ago

I heard talk of this, and I'm a bit curious if this is in fact the reason why they have named it so.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is an old Disney trick but I think this is different. Kevin Feige had very little say about the old marvel shows, he butted heads a lot with the guy who was in charge of the TV shows, Ike Perlmutter. Ike was a piece of shit and is no longer in charge, so you can't really blame Kevin Feige for wanting to wipe the slate clean. I've been thankful he decided to keep the two biggest names from the original show but in no way was the new show going to be a continuation, unlike the other examples listed in the comments

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

He can reset it creatively if he wants but to every actor and crew member involved it's still just a new season of the same show.

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