somewhere i should have a collection of "borrowed" ikea pencils
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I always bring them back when they have reached half the original length.
The part I hate most is the "$800 phone" part. At least get a proper PC where you've got a fighting chance at being able to create stuff instead of a smartphone/tablet with an interface designed purely to consume, damn it!
I can do some pixelart on my S23 Ultra, and even sketch some ideas down in work.
What they mean by that is that they have no artistic ability and no interest in learning anything about how to actually make art, they just want a product to spec for free.
Devils advocate here. There's open source services that offers AI gen for free, as long as you have an internet connection.
So a potato phone could be used and that's all that's required.
-# Doesn't make it more accessible than actual pen and paper but the gap is not that big either
I would argue that 'free' just means the cost is hidden and you might end up paying it anyway through the societal effects that the energy demands of LLMs cause. That is, there's a cost and it will make it back to you somehow or other because that's how tech oligarchy works.
Definitely. But the point here is the accessiblity. If you gotta argue about the accessiblity you gotta set the record straight on both sides
I'm pretty against AI. I just like my facts corrects
Llms arent the same ai as image gen though.
Your thinking of ChatGPT like services.
StableDiffusion on al old laptop will take less energy then a modern game, maybe slightly more then a digital painting software.
Its also fully open source and offline, you can check the code if you want.
Internet connection already stops a lot of people
People get hilariously upset when you point out that sucking absolute arse at something is not a class issue nor a disability.
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It's not about accessibility moneywise - it's accessibility skillwise. Many people do not want to put any effort into learning a new skill, so asking AI to do it for them is just way more convenient and "accessible".
This is part of a large shift in society where "failure" is seen as something extremely negative. You either do something and are immediately good at it, or you should just stop altogether.
You either do something and are immediately good at it, or you should just stop altogether.
I bet this line speaks to a lot of fellow lemmings who are middle aged nerds with ADHD and were “gifted” in school.
Many people do not want to put any effort into learning a new skill, so asking AI to do it for them is just way more convenient and “accessible”.
...and then they flood the internet with their garbage zero-effort slop.
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There's someone close to me whose near entire existence is basically pain. They still draw.
They hate the idea that their works got sucked by billionaires into giant plagiarism machines that are enriching them further. Pro AI people and tech bros think they should just suck it up and start using fucking AI horde or something, despite the fact that this trend makes them sick and the proposed solutions don't tackle real issues, but spread or ignore them.
One of my main gripes with GenAI is the tech industry's usual disregard for consent. GenAI users saying we should get rid of it altogether doesn't endear their ideal future to me. Saying the same thing as Sam Altman, but totally in a leftist way, just grosses me out.
I never spent any money on AI. Use locally run open source models.
Doesn't that require a load of computer power? My computer could start a house fire opening a PDF.
Depends on your hardware (such as your graphics card). But it's definitely possible and a lot of people do it.
$30 a month so far, will be a lot more if their plan of forcing artists out works out.
Yeah, but how much did you cost?
Fun fact two days ago I got a price tag tattoo on my hip for $646,990.37, so at least that much
Let me guess, bill for hip surgery in US?
Economic cost of mtf lower surgery in the US. It also includes electrolysis, travel, and housing for surgery related stuff. That said almost all of it is just surgery and hospital bills charged to insurance. I only have paid about $35k and they want another $4k out of me but I'm fighting it. Gearing up for a legal battle soon yay
It's gotta be cheaper to do medical tourism and get something like that done in another country.
It sure is! My insurance is actually really good though and I got a plan specifically to cover this. I was told several times by multiple people and departments I wouldn't have to pay more than my out of pocket max. Which was a lie apparently and out of pocket max doesn't always work like advertised. Thus the imminent legal battle
I think it seems to usually be more about disabled people, who ai bros tend to consider either too stupid or physically unable to make real art, which is bullshit. There are amputees painting with their feet, who knows how many artists who have prosthetic hands or chronic pain. And don't even get me started on mentally disabled people.
I'm sure all disabled people love hearing "Oh this other disabled guy showed extraordinary willpower and overcame his disability against all odds why can't you"
Gotta say, most disabled people i know - myself included - would happily hold AI underwater until the bubbles stop
The game Katawa Shoujo, which was actually made by a cooperation between people who were on 4chan, depicts amputees and disabled folk, one of which is an artist which draws with her feet, with many of them having traumatic experiences that you hear of as you get to know of them more personally
It's good. I like it.
The main thing here is that image generation trough an llm doesn’t even count as creating.
Asking is not creating. In these systems people ask an llm to use a genai tool, the people never actually touch the tool themselves. (They wont even allow it lol)
Thats why ComfyUi with stable diffusion and not chatgpt is the standard for serious art work using ai.
They are fully open source, offline and they don’t require any more energy then playing a video game.
Also workflows look like this, more accessible means a different set of skills can now get you similar results. But it is still skill.
you indeed dont need to know how to hold a pencil to build that.
(Also there are more and more models exclusively trained with artist consent)
So yes, ai does make art more accessible to a small group of technical people. Most people know no one in this group.
This feels like it was drawn in one of those $200 drawing tablets
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