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[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 175 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I've heard these described as a "legally acceptable way of filtering out people with autism" and man I've not seen them the same way since.

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I have had a theory that the personality tests are just to have an excuse to discriminate with plausible deniability.

[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 month ago

Yep quite a few years back I had two jobs lined up , already got the first but the second one wanted a second interview after I filled in a 50 page personality test. I felt the first offer would be interesting and better paid but wanted to see what they offered. So I said why not just be completely honest instead of faking it :) very interesting interview, I just told them that whoever sold them this idea was probably a very good salesman. The tool is just pointless. I got to much risk taking etc , yea I like skydiving.. I'm not skydiving at work. .. if you want people to bullshit you it's pretty good though haha

[–] bored_boar_onboard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is absolutely the case. In the documentary “The Fog of War” (a great documentary IMO) Robert McNamara explains how he helped create a personality test to screen applicants for Ford (I think it was them).

One of the questions was “Would you rather be a coal miner or a florist?”. McNamara says his family had owned a florist but the answer they wanted coal miner. For “obvious reasons”.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think the reason is obvious at all. Is it because coal mining is hard work?

[–] bored_boar_onboard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it was a clumsy attempt to filter out gay men.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 points 1 month ago

Lol. Homophobes are funny. Thanks for the explanation.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

"Yeah I want to be a coal miner. I want to fuck up my health, the health of the environment, the health of anyone nearby, all just to make somebody else a profit with a product that is more expensive than the clean alternatives"

[–] Caesium@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don't get a response.

fuck corpos man

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

That explains a LOT.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Not that I necessarily think they're trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there's one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.

Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?

Me: No.

IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?

Me (married): Well, it's not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7... you know what, I'm just going to mark it No.

IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?

Me: No.

IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?

Me: I'M TELLING YOU, I CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like you need to improve your communication with your wife about her potential IV drug use and extramarital affairs.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't watch her 24 hours a day! I can't say, with certainty, that she doesn't transform into a dragon and fight gremlins in a parallel dimension when I'm not around! It's a fundamentally impossible question to answer, short of "To the best of my knowledge..."

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[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.

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[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it would just filter people who know what the correct answer is supposed to be.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, I just also believe that the people who don't know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

in my experience, I'm the autistic one, and I have to explain it to the normies what's going on with these kinds of questions.

Truth is irrelevant.

Innocence proves nothing.

Being right doesn't matter.

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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I owned the means of production, then answer #1 would be okay.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or if they had profit sharing, that actually used to be a thing.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

People all collectively forgot that that was the piece that made America great in the 50s.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 76 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i want all business owners to know: i, and millions like me, lie through my fucking teeth on these "surveys," telling you what we know you want to hear, while quiet quitting every minute of every day. because fuck you

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They know, they don't care. Read bullshit jobs

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

They want people who know better but still say what is expected of them

[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you're getting quizzed on subjective questions and ideology, it's time to back away.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, a questioaire like his is definitely a red flag

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Acquired responsibility under a working contract ≠ Motivation for signing a working contract

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sure but we are responsible for our own health and that of our family also, so the main objective for many is to obtain “stable employment” the more invisible, the better.

Work to live. Not live to work.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

help your CEO get that hefty bonus

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

As soon as I read the responses I knew what this was. Guys you have no obligation to believe any of the training they give you. You know what the answers are supposed to be to be. Just tell them what they want to hear and keep going. They are still legally responsible for what happens on the job. This is just something they do to get rid of people or prevent people from getting hired.

[–] javasux@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Responsibility and objective are two different things

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 month ago

Well damn that's a good point. But what a weird ass question.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My primary responsibility is to take care of me and my family by earning enough money to pay my bills.

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always respond and give the "right" answers because it's either an HR psychopath checking your answers to see if you're a dangerous unionist or now a damn AI.

So yes I'd like to kill myself for your company, then find something else and EAT SHIT

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Yes Mr. Bossman, I would love to work at your company. I have aspired to be a since I was a small child. I would do anything to help out the company. My only desire is to help the business.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember to tell them what they want to hear and they will do the same but we all know it is just a game.

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 13 points 1 month ago

you owe that question no honesty

If it was a worker-owned co-op they'd be the same... but it never is.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even the chosen answer is like the bottom minimum of what I expect of a job.

I'd like to be able to pay my bills and have something left at the end I can splurge on something else.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The question left out whether it meant responsibility to the employer or yourself, which is crucial information.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

If you can't pay your own bills, then you can't eat enough to be able to work. So no

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Ah- ha! that’s one of them "family" corporations

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I mean, that's what the business wants from you.

I'm surprised they laid it out like that though.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Ahhhh, canvas quizzes. What class?

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Of course, what do you think you got hired for?

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