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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 148 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For what it's worth though, the Pope is already a senior "employee" while that 2 days of voting is taking place. It's more like a board meeting to appoint a new CEO from the board rather than having an applications process.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 54 points 2 weeks ago

Don't be fooled: It's just management blowing smoke.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That just sounds like it should take more time, not less.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you want to go down a rabbit hole, Papal elections is as crazy as anything.

But realistically, Francis was ill for a while, and in 2025 the participants have full access to each other. They'd probably been discussing it for months before the actual conclave.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I loves me a good Pope War

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-mongoliad-book-one-greg-bear/8059232?ean=9781612182360&next=t

The Mongoliad. Book One of Three.

Two intersecting stories. A group of knights is travelling to Mongolia to assassinate the Great Khan. If the Khan dies all the Mongols in Europe will have to return home to elect a new leader. Meanwhile there's a Papal enclave that's been deadlocked for far too long.

Neil Stephenson is one of the writers, and it's as deep a rabbithole as any of his novels.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago

No it doesn't.

The first million rounds have already taken place before the 2 day clock starts.

All the remaining viable candidates are all present in the same room and not allowed to leave the building until a result is achieved.

Before the 2 day clock starts, everyone has already decided who they will support. The only thing they need to do is to acknowledge which candidates can not achieve majority support and re-allocate their votes accordingly.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They save a whole bundle of time on contract negotiations because this Pope is still on a lifelong vow of poverty. No golden parachute payments! That's all handled upstairs.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Jesus, yes.

My team hired a newbie last summer. He went through three interviews AND THEN a group interview with the whole team. My boss tried to put in an 'assessment' but it didn't clear corporate HR, so we couldn't actually use it in this round of hiring.

Eight years ago I went through two rounds of interviews, though the second was with three different people in the firm. There was no group back then, and therefore, no group interview.

It's absolutely insane the hoops people have to jump through these days.

[–] KaiFeng@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Looking for a junior position in finance: 3 interviews + 2 exams + group interview + interview with the manager

This is getting out of hand...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 2 weeks ago

And they can't even get rid of him if they made the wrong choice.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The pope was elected in 5 votes though.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Trump was elected in one vote, maybe two if you count the primary election

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

so maybe companies should also hold their 5 rounds in 2 days?

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Its not really a hire, its a promotion that people have been campaigning for for years.

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
  • It's* not really a hire
  • it's* a promotion
[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Its the Internet. Apostrophes dont control me out here.

[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

“I said what I said” is such an obnoxious way to end a post, especially one making as bad a point as this one is.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Same vibes as "sorry not sorry"

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Totally.

He should have been more respectful to Catholics, because they absolutely deserve it.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

To me it reads like tacit admission that what he said won't stand up to scrutiny.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

TBF, they chose the new pope like it was a lightning round

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

After learning what the Conclave is and the history of its founding, it's little wonder that cardinals try to elect a new pope in a timely manner.

"Okay holy papas, we're doing this by the book. 72 hours, or we pick the name out of the big hat. It took 2 years and some serious remodeling to get a pope that one time. I am way too old to live off of bread and water."

"Look, it's not about the food, or the roof. If we take too long, the sheep get antsy. I promise you, if the seat is vacant, the American is going to show up and try to claim the papacy. The CIA will plant the smoke in the chimney or something, I don't know."

"What? He's already wearing the hat!? How did he get it!? ...Do I look like I know what a 'Gen AI' is?"

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You're putting a hell of a lot of trust in a remote employee. I understand why there would be 5 rounds of interviewing.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How? They either do their work, or they don't, and then you can fire them in the probation period. And if the manager can't tell that the employees aren't doing any actual work, you have a much bigger problem than some remote workers slacking off.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

if the manager can’t tell that the employees aren’t doing any actual work

This is one of the biggest issues in most offices around the world, and is the rule, not the exception. It is also a big part of the reason why small businesses can often outbid larger ones - a team of 8 people who all know each other well and who will share in the success or failure of a project won't slack off, and will hold each other accountable.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If they don't work well then fire them

There is literally no risk for the corporations that hold all of the cards

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not like there could be delays or loss of revenue or anything!

Nope, no risk At ALL. 🤦‍♂️

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most people have to worry about losing money, corporations worry about not making as much money as they wanted.

When the "risk" never even matches the actual risk of having to rely on an employer to live then it really starts to look like the ownership class just shouldn't be taken seriously.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Interviews are largely pretty useless though. Unless you have an industrial psychologist doing them they're super subjective and people with personality disorders actually tend to do well in these situations.