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Ex-FBI director deletes Instagram post of shells in ‘8647’ formation that Republicans claim is code for assassination

A photo of seashells posted on Instagram by the former FBI director James Comey is now being investigated by the US Secret Service, after the US homeland security secretary Kristi Noem said it constituted a “threat” against Donald Trump.

On Thursday, Comey posted a photo of seashells forming the message “8647”, with a caption that read: “Cool shell formation on my beach walk.”

Trump’s supporters have interpreted the message as an endorsement of violence against Trump – the 47th president. There is more debate around the use of 86, a slang term often used in restaurants to mean getting rid of or throwing something out, and which, according to Merriam-Webster, has been used more recently, albeit sparingly, to mean “to kill”.

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[–] bluegreenwookie@bookwormstory.social 41 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Remember when conservatives were hanging and burning effigies of president obama?

[–] FrChazzz@lemm.ee 26 points 6 days ago

Remember when they were covering the tail gates of their trucks in vinyl wrap depicting Joe Biden as hog-tied in the back of their trucks?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, but that was mostly just because they were racist.

This is totally different, somehow.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 93 points 6 days ago

Living proof that fascists don't work food-service. Or maybe food-service workers are immunized against fascist ideology. Either way I hope 47 gets 86'ed.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 6 days ago (6 children)

More recently to mean to kill?

It's used daily at every restaurant/grocery store to mean they are out of an item. 86 cheddar just means your out of cheddar, stop selling it.

Are all the working class calling assignations on cheddar cheese they sold out of now?

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 6 days ago

people have been using to mean “fire trump”, so they’re reinterpreting it to mean “assasinate” so that way they can.
a. round up critics.
b. stop a catchy slogan so people don’t chant anything interesting at protests.

[–] Daggity@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago

Aoc has routinely been mocked for having been a bartender, so yes absolutely.

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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're all in that kind of mindset because they're constantly throwing around numbers that are white power dog whistles

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure someone arranged the shells this way, the same way someone puts a sticker on a lightpole that says "eat the rich." The kind of thing that exists somewhere in between instruction and wishing.

Comey saw it, thought it was neat, and posted it not knowing what it was.

Which is idiotic of an FBI director. But nothing more.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

I think it's pretty obvious that the sea arranged the shells because it is angry about the deep sea drilling.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

MAGA investigation:

Sea Shells 8647.

Hmmmm. French for "sea" is "mare" - "M" Shells are "S" Numbers are basically 13...

OMG - MS13! He's in a gang!

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Mollusks have been invading our country, illegally , and so too must be deported at great expense to El Salvador.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yea, 86 Trump. Come at me feds. It means "throw this thing away" and they fucking know it.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago

86 is a synonym for remove, and that could theoretically happen in a number of legal ways.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago

Fuck James Comey. He enabled the orange twatwaffle every chance he got in the name of A Higher Loyalty ^TM^ Now he's on fucking instagram shit posting vague threats like he's 14 and this is deep? He just wants attention so he can sell his trashy crime novels. Fuck you James.

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I would think that if an FBI director wanted a person dead, you’d be hearing about how he did it, rather than how he desired it.

Also, I once used seashells to write "69ME", but nothing happened, to my disappointment.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So numbers are threats now?

8647

And order 66 47

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[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Next it will be "Fauci under investigation for death threat to Trump as he posts a picture of an orange with a cocktail stick in it"

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[–] derry@midwest.social 16 points 6 days ago

8675309 or something

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

One of the things I enjoy is MAGAts, who like calling left leaning people "snowflakes," losing their shit every time somebody says something they don't like.

Feels like this should become a slogan. "86 Trump!"

Why?

Well the term originates from soda-counter slang that meant an item sold out, and has grown to mean "throw out," "get rid of" and "refuse service to" according to the Merriam-Webster - the dictionary people.

Eighty-six is slang meaning "to throw out," "to get rid of," or "to refuse service to." It comes from 1930s soda-counter slang meaning that an item was sold out. There is varying anecdotal evidence about why the term eighty-six was used, but the most common theory is that it is rhyming slang for nix.

Wikipedia adds some more context:

In the hospitality industry, it is used to indicate that an item is no longer available, traditionally from a food or drinks establishment, or referring to a person or people who are not welcome on the premises. Its etymology is unknown, but the term seems to have been coined in the 1920s or 1930s.

Military personnel might use "86" informally to refer to scrapping equipment (e.g., "That old radio got 86'd") or ending a plan or mission (e.g., "The op was 86'd due to bad weather"). It's not an official term in military doctrine or manuals, but it's part of the informal jargon that soldiers, sailors, or airmen might pick up and use, influenced by broader civilian language.

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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Is “MS13” overlaid on top of the shells?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (21 children)

"86" means "get rid of", not kill.

https://www.7shifts.com/blog/what-does-86-mean-hospitality/

"The term 86 is used throughout many different industries, but is mostly associated with the restaurant, bar, and hospitality industry. While the etymology of the term 86 has a few different stories, there are multiple theories around where this term originated from. In nearly every context, it means to “refuse service”, “get rid of” or “nix” something.

According to Merriam-Webster, the origin of the term 86 began as a slang term that meant something was sold out at soda bars in the 1930’s. This term was thought to have come from the rhyming slang term “nix”, which is to cancel something.

During the Prohibition Era, a speakeasy called Chumley’s bar was located at 86 Bedford Street, Greenwich Village, New York City. Police showed up at the hidden bar to shut it down, and apparently told patrons to “86” (leave) the area by using the secret back door that led to 86th Bedford Street. Which was different from the main entrance that police would use on Barrow Street.

Other possible origins of where the term 86 comes from is also tied to bars and alcohol. Prior to the 1980s, whiskey was available as 100 of 86 proof. When patrons drank too much of the 100-proof whiskey, they would become belligerent, and the bartender would have to “86” them, meaning they would have to switch to 86-proof liquor or leave the bar if they were unruly."

[–] match@pawb.social 13 points 6 days ago

"they're too drunk, switch them to the 43% alcohol liquor instead" absolutely made up, the least believable folk etymology I've heard today

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

"86" means "ged rid of", not kill.

the latter could be denoted by 18747.

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[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This isn't just fascist stuff.

This is petty, high school, mean girl, petty vindictive childish shit.

The stuff that children, and adults with minds of children engage in.

But, unfortunately, these overgrown children have endless wealth.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But, unfortunately, these overgrown children have endless wealth.

Not only that, but in the US, the Supreme Court has ruled that money in political campaigns is a form of speech, and can't be regulated like it used to.

So while we have freedom of speech here, those overgrown children have much more speech than the average person.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Eat the rich! Arm the homeless!

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Let the homeless eat the arms of the rich!

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

That works, too

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

Thin skin as performance art.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

And noem should officially be brought to trial for being a traitor as well

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

sure its important to be in opposition to the trump regime, but i also really really hate jim come for probably making Hilary Clinton lose in 2016 and also throwing Martha Stewart in prison, so if he gets sent to the gulag i won't be very upset

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah let's not forget Comey is an idiot just because the fascists hate him now. He knew what the picture meant too.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Great, time for more stupidity theater with Trump lawyers seriously insisting that this is the worst, most dangerous threat ever to a judge who might be a Trump appointee that would entertain their unreality. Failing that, they'll start using the other federal agencies to dig up whatever they can to continue the harassment. Probably more Trumped up financial records bullshit.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Fucking snowflakes. 86 just means to cancel an order or hold a topping. Dumb! Fucks!

This is thinly veiled weaponization of the Justice department. Call it out, don't capitulate and spread the narrative it "might be a threat."

[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago

And yet these trump supporters cant put together trump took bribes with his meme coin or worse dont care

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean.... there are 2 definitions when you say you want to "ice" someone.

1 definition is that you want to end their current existence. The other definition is that you want to....wait a second....

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

And the second is when you hide a Smirnoff Ice somewhere in their house and when they find it they must take a knee and chug it in one attempt.

This must be done either in person or with video evidence.

Fuck you Ben for hiding a whole case worth in my house when you were my house sitter, I didn't get the last one until almost a year later because it was INSIDE THE FUCKING LAWNMOWER.

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