this post was submitted on 22 May 2025
177 points (98.9% liked)

Fuck Cars

11666 readers
1314 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

In case you were worried about the roads being too safe, you can rest easily knowing that Teslas will be rolling out with unsupervised "Full Self Driving" in a couple days.

It doesn't seem to be going great, even in supervised mode. This one couldn't safely drive down a simple, perfectly straight road in broad daylight :( Veered off the road for no good reason. Glad nobody got badly hurt.

We analyze the onboard camera footage, and try to figure out what went wrong. Turns out, a lot. We also talk through how camera-only autonomous cars work, Tesla's upcoming autonomous taxi rollout, and how AI hallucinations figure into everything.

top 22 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] firadin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Here's a link directly to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frGoalySCns

Now here's a fun experiment: start from the beginning, and pause as soon as you think the car is about to do something dangerous. That's your correction time - I was probably front wheels off the road before I paused.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago

I was front wheels off the road by the time my reaction time hit the mouse button.

And a mouse button is faster to activate than a steering wheel :,|

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait for the "self-driving" tractor trailers...

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Aurora Innovation already has 20 trucks on a highway in Texas as a pilot program. Unlike Tesla's design, they don't rely on cameras and have LIDAR/RADAR all over the place.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 4 hours ago

I'm actually research Aurora right now for another piece.

Much better technical setup than Tesla. Tesla isn't even trying to apply their consumer FSD tech to their semi product.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago

Thank God elon defunded the agency overseeing his shitty cars

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 36 points 14 hours ago

Good thing it doesn’t have LIDAR sensors on the front, repair would be much more expensive

Tap for spoiler/s

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Does insurance cover that?

[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 35 points 16 hours ago

Perhaps an “unauthorized modification” was made to the FSD stack. Maybe late at night. Possibly by a ketamine addict.

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Inb4 Elon tweets that this actually is a good thing, then tries to claim that the car will protect the driver from harm. Even though the car literally crashed itself 🫠

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 1 points 2 hours ago

"wow, ummmmmm--" stares off into space for 5 ketamine-soaked seconds "... The cyber-airbags worked better than designed." - Elon

$TSLA: Rises 420.69% after-hours

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Flipping an EV is no small feat, especially a sedan. The damned center of gravity is basically at the middle of the wheels.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 hours ago

Ditches can make anything possible.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 7 points 15 hours ago

No kidding!

[–] deur@feddit.nl 19 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Y'know... I would suggest a decent proof of FSD being worthless garbage is the fact you'd think a car which can drive itself should probably be able to automatically stop itself.

Even when under manual control the car should be able to go "ah shit this aint the road anymore, those are some trees and a fence I'm headed towards way too fast" and try to stop and perform risk mitigating maneuvers.

After that we can talk about whether the car might be able to drive itself.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 8 points 15 hours ago

Oh RIGHT... THAT.

[–] zeet@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

"Tesla, return to origin."

"Researching my origin... ... ... Oh my God... " screech

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago

what else was it suppose to do, its trying to be autonomous.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah well, machine learning for controlling cars works most of the time. Sometimes it doesn't.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 11 points 15 hours ago

That feels like a great reason to not apply machine learning to a problem.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 5 points 16 hours ago

Someone has spoken against our glorious tech leader Elmo....

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Do you folks remember a DLC mission in watchdogs 2 ? Hmmmm....