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What the fuck :O
That's my CD-Key! Aaaaaa
This is burned into my brain like nothing else.
I'm pretty sure that both Red Hat Enterprise and SUSE Enterprise require a license key.
Red hat does after 9?
RHEL never did to install it. To get any updates though, you have to provide a contract number.
Edit: 10 might be different, but I don't think it would be.
Thatβs right, you pay for support not the binaries and the source code is free under GPL.
Not certain, I haven't installed red hat in several years.
I started Linux with a physical copy of redhat 5.2 in 2000.
I had an old friend who busted his ass to educate me on computers when I was a kid and I will be forever thankful to him.
For me, my first exposure to Linux was around that same time, but with SuSE. It's still my go-to distro, even though I've installed and used dozens of different ones. Compiling Gentoo over a weekend is a fun experience at least once.
I think I used gentoo years ago. Is that the one that builds and downloads as you install? Iβm getting old, itβs been years and I remember a distro that was making headlines with something like that years ago.
My go-to distro for a long time was Mandrake, which became Mandriva. I have no idea whatβs going on with that one now.
Iβve been using SteamOS and EndeavourOS recently.
Yeah, Gentoo builds everything from source. Supposed to make it faster, but I didn't notice enough of a difference to make it worth my while.
I agree. It's quite unlikely the setup will finish in 33 minutes. Not really, anyway.
You can always install activate-linux, and it even works on Windows.
That's a delight. I should add that to our Linux jumpbox templates just to spice things up with the junior engineers
Unfortunately, whats scarier to people is if the installer is text or TUI, :0
I thought not, but just last week there was a discussion about someone asking about buying the "Pro" version of their distro, which have them access to... free open source software they could have just downloaded. Had a big (polite) argument with someone about the ethics of this
Distros (ZorinOS) are doing this crap. Shysters will always find a way to fleece people.
I personally donβt mind at all if open source projects want to sell a βproβ version for businesses, as long as itβs still open source. Selling priority troubleshooting and dev attention to issues to businesses seems like one of the less offensive ways to fund open source projects in a capitalist society, imo
Yes! I completely agree. The distinction is, to me, utterly important: they aren't selling the software, they're selling the service. Hell, if they want to sell the option to get your bugs fixed on demand, great! That's enormously different than taking millions of developer hours spent creating OSS, sticking a label and name on it, and then reselling it as if you made any real contribution to the OSS community.
Isn't this basically how Fedora and RHEL are? RHEL is paid for giving you support, updates, etc. While Fedora is FOSS. You just install it and they don't care what you do with it.
Or for server software it can be funded with support contracts.
Dude, I remember a time where buying your distro was the default behavior. There's nothing shady about it.
I've never bought a distro. I've paid someone for the CD and shipping, way back before ISOs and internet speeds at home made downloading it practical. But never have I "bought" for Linux. Every CD I got I could legally copy and give away; or charge for the service.
With few exceptions, what you were paying for the media, the effort of burning and shipping, and shipping. Even with companies like Redhat, what you paid for with Enterprise was service and support, not the software.
I seem to be having this argument frequently lately. Taking someone else's work, that they gave you for free, putting your own logo on it and then selling it to people is one of the most unethical things that isn't illegal that I can think of. Selling support services is entirely fair. Selling compute, bandwidth, and space, entirely ethical. But profiting off other's generosity? How do you justify that? Even if you're not a socialist or communist, taking a painting someone gave away and then turning around and selling it is disgusting and amoral. You've added no value; you're purely profiting on someone else's work.
Packaging the software in a distro with an installer and a custom DE adds a lot of value.
I'm not familiar with Zorin specifically, but freely distributing source code and charging for binaries was one of the earliest monetization strategies for GPL code.
Yeah... for the authors. That's fine. You downloading my FOSS, packaging it and selling it is slimy carpet-baggery.
I bought SUSE Linux once upon a time. It was a physical CD and the packaging that I paid for. Maybe a little support was bundled, probably not. That was a time when the internet was slow for most and not an option for others, wifi wasn't ubiquitous (and if it existed, good luck getting the proper drivers loaded without internet), live distributions weren't really a thing yet, booting from usb was finicky and unreliable, and the install CDs would have the entire OS and basically all the software you could want to install bundled. These would have been the days before the fall of Napster and the rise in other "Linux ISO sharing tools". Ubuntu would even mail you like a half dozen physical CDs and some stickers just for asking and promising to share them in your community.
There's nothing wrong with buying the physical things or paying for support. That's not what this meme is showing though.
Shysters will always find a way to fleece people.
I was discussing this, not the meme.
I mean, that's kinda like RHEL if you pay for the "self-service" subscription?
Yes, and I have the same opinion about Redhat.
No issue with their actual paid service levels; it costs them to run those, and they're providing value. Most corporations won't use software unless they have a telephone number to call when it breaks, and service level guarantees. That's worth paying for; it's a service. But the fact that they're charging for software that includes some that I wrote, and which RHEL got for free, and for which I receive no kickbacks, is inexcusable.
But even Red Hat offers that subscription for free for up to 16 machines
Well, that's disappointing to learn.
I have gotten popup ads for Ubuntu Pro on stock Ubuntu install.
The difference is that Ubuntu Pro is free, and the ads are only 1 line in the terminal
Pop-up ads are loathsome. It's nagware. We need to bring back that term, because that's exactly what we used to call this shit, and that's exactly what it is.
There is a popup ad when you first install the update that introduces this feature.
Wait I'm the system administrator, who the hell do I contact??!!
User not in super-sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
The Ultra Sysadmin. Bring the sacrifice.
There's a typo there so I think it's fake.
There are also 26 X's in the boxes.
Now this is podracing
Beat me to it
Great minds think alike
Lol agreed
XP
Apparently, you've never run Xandros.