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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 208 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Between this, the tarrifs and the brain drain, why would any manufacturers consider operating in the US anymore?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They'll still want access to Americans coz there are profits to be had, and they can price gouge under a fascist kleptocracy many orders of magnitude harder than elsewhere.

What they don't understand is that the fascist leadership will backstab many/most of them eventually, especially if they possess any moral fiber whatsoever. Luckily for them, capitalism has already purged corporate leadership of morality and ethics.

[–] kruhmaster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But if we don't have as much money due to increased prices on life essentials and assistance cuts, how are we supposed to buy all these things? Bad logic on their part, if this is their approach.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There is no bottom. They'll continue crushing the working class all the way to slavery and feudalism.

Stop expecting logic. MAGA and fascism is a severely psychotic mental illness that is empirically a dead end. A death cult.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (24 children)

There's no real push for that to happen. This is about crashing an economy, stealing wealth and creating a a massive almost slave labor class at the bottom.

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[–] centof@lemm.ee 124 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Ah yes let's try to stifle Chinese innovation by ... checks notes ... expanding our surveillance state. Usually we are the ones calling China a surveillance state, but it's fine(it's not) once we do it.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago

There is nothing more American than hipocracy my friend

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Senator Tom Cotton

Ah. Yeah, that tracks.

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh Senator Know-Nothing....

What are you going to do about firewalls and air-gapped networks? JFK you stupid asshole... GTFO

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Next up GPUs require always-on connections and Nvidia requires a monthly subscription to pay for that.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For just $19.99 a month you can have us track your GPU*, or choose the premium ad-free upgrade for just $149.99 a months, so you can enjoy your favorite games without ad breakes.

^^^* ^^^failure ^^^to ^^^comply ^^^will ^^^be ^^^punished ^^^by ^^^deportation

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is absolutely insane and no one will want to buy those GPUs.

[–] Yttra@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

Unless, of course, they're in all the GPUs that people want.

...It's unfortunately more likely that the majority of people won't notice or care, though.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 43 points 1 week ago

Why would they make their own products illegal in Europe?

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

...okay, so invest in Chinese GPU companies? Invest in Chinese GPU companies.

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

The first and central provision of the bill is the requirement for tracking technology to be embedded in any high-end processor module or device that falls under the U.S. export restrictions.

As a coder with some hardware awareness, I find the concept laughable.

How does he think they (read: the Taiwanese, if they are willing to) would go about doing it?

Add a GPS receiver onto every GPU? Add an inertial navigation module to every GPU? Add a radio to every GPU? :D

The poor politician needs a technically competent advisor forced on him. To make him aware (preferably in the most blunt way) of real possibilities in the real world.

In the real world, you can prevent a chip from knowing where it's running and you can't add random shit onto a chip, and if someone does, you can stop buying bugged hardware or prevent that random addition from getting a reading.

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

If politicians had advisors then how would they justify doing the dumb shit their owners want them to, then they can't plead ignorance.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How about locking all the advanced functions behind a hardware lock that requires an online key to unlock? Besides getting an IP address for geolocation, this approach would enable manufacturers to put a subscription on the features as well. Require users to provide a government issued ID that matches the name on the credit card used.

VPN! I hear you cry. But the driver is already running pretty close to the hardware, so good luck hiding a VPN client.

So while you can't guarantee a street address accuracy, you can get country and overall regional subdivision.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But who would buy such hardware? :)

so good luck hiding a VPN client.

In my imagination, there is no VPN client. The whole network is behind a VPN router and the internet gateway is where it needs to be.

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

How is this even legal? I am not even american nor living there, so how would the US be allowed to operate massive and unregulated surveillance through GPUs ?

The US is becoming worse than those they call villain.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The US has very low engagement of its voters, so even things that are illegal are starting to happen regularly.

It's the same as so many countries, once a few rich guys get into power, as long as the guys with guns will take their money, it doesn't really matter what want, the government gets captured and corrupted.

There's ways to fight it but it's a slog. I might give up. It's not my job to fix it, fixing things doesn't pay.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago

Yeah that is fun and all but I can at least guarantee you that that shit won't fly in Europe, and likely neither in Canada. I can only imagine other countries will be penning their own laws outlawing this.

So tech giants then have the option to either go for separate chipsets for those countries or stip selling there.

Also, how do you want to implement this? Have the GPU request GPS data from the computer? That won't be hard to forgr., but let's say you ge that, then what?

You need to send that info somewhere or it'll be useless. How? Over the Internet? Ahw, my firewall told you to go fuck yourself. Over its own GPS line? A little bit of aluminum foil can do miracles.

So what are you going to do then? Require an active internet connection for your GPU to work? Bwhahahahha. Have you seen gamers responses to games that require active internet connections to play? You won't sell shit.

This is again a law designed by absolutely.emoty headed idiots tompleae some other empty headed idiots.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why do gpus need geo tracking? They're usually pretty stationary right?

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because China supposedly used Nvidia cards to train DeepSeek, which blew all of the US AI out of the water. And apparently that raised some eyebrows, because Nvidia wasn’t supposed to be selling to China (free market, right?). Since China was eating big tech’s lunch, they cried to republicans (and gave them a bunch of reelection money) and now we have this bill. The point is to be able to remotely disable cards if they’re outside of their sale region.

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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Adversaries who are being treated to lower tarriffs than allies.

Cooked country.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I can't imagine this would be effective at all. Assuming it uses GPS, big datacenters could simply spoof the GPS signal, and consumers could block the GPU from receiving the signal (a fully metal PC case is almost a Faraday cage already).

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Senator Tom Cotton's legislation seeks to "prevent advanced ~~American~~ TAIWANESE chips from falling into the hands of adversaries like Communist China."

FTFY

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People will just make custom firmware and drivers.

[–] brokenlcd@feddit.it 14 points 1 week ago

It would be wonderful if this pushes develpment of noveau drivers. But i don't get my hopes up...

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[–] matmarspace@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago

Bruh... Literally 1984

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Capitalism is a system of whores. And there's nothing wrong with whores, but a whore is a whore. Good luck. It's going to be like trying to hold a bar of soap that's slipping out of your hands. You can keep grabbing at it, but it's just going to keep slipping. I just recall when America leaked nuclear secrets because soldiers were using a private private flashcard program and they forgot to check mark the box that said private. And so they ended up leaking all these secrets all over the internet. And let's not forget. The open source information that was used from some snot-nosed person on an osint account on twitter for targeting a supposed underground base, that cost the lives of innocent civilians via the Palantir and Peter Thiel's stupid AI. They did not get an underground base. They just wasted millions of dollars on something that wasn't there.

It's like their plans are dystopic and terrifying, but they're not going to be able to implement them in a way that's worth a damn. And also, their actual product that they produce is so stupid that it's even more terrifying than the original idea. It's just straight up fucking madness. It's like, look mom, no hands. Then you fall off the goddamn bike and you're sitting there crying.

This still remains. There is so much corruption and greed in this country that we can't even function as an empire. We can't even get a chip's factory figured out. We don't make shit. Everybody in this country is so goddamn lazy and stupid. I can't even find a noble cause because I feel like I'm just enabling stupid people. I'm sure we just operate off of bare necessities. Like the need to just stay alive one more day. But it gets to the point where it's like, what's the fucking point? This country is nonsensical. It's absurd. It's laughable. It's weak. It's limp dicked. And this happened way before Joe Biden or Trump. This has been a continuation ever since I've been alive for 40 fucking dumb ass years.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

What the fuck is your metaphor with whores all about??

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[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Finally my Intel stock will rise. This will definitely force Nvidia GPU to be manufactured in the US with always on DRM.

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