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Donald Trump was deliberately left in the dark about Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strike in Russia on Sunday, which destroyed nearly a third of the Kremlin’s strategic bomber fleet in a surprise attack.

The large-scale drone attack saw a fleet of drones scattered all across Russia carry out simultaneous attacks on five airbases, wiping out 40 irreplaceable military bombers worth an estimated $7 billion, which have been used to reign terror upon Ukrainian civilians.

“Operation Spider-Web” took over 18 months to plan and was personally overseen by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a source told CBS News.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why would a sovereign country, being attacked by a hostile neighbor, be required to inform ANYONE about their war plans? I wouldn't inform anyone, even my friends. They'll see it on the news, like everyone else.

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

And the operation turned out to be a complete success! Looks like a good strategy going forward.

Not one person on this entire site can tell me anyone should trust tRump in ANY situation, let alone one where he has leverage over you and interest in... your stuff. Expect more of this by the way; turns out when you're a constant asshole to everyone, nobody wants to be around you or rely on you, let alone offer to extend help in your direction. I'm honestly baffled what people fucking expected, only brainrotted simps believe in the real adult world, on the global stage, you can twist everyone's arms to get your way without consequence forever. And only tRump can't see this cause that's been his ENTIRE life: No consequences ever for being the absolute worst person regarding character and conduct.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Even if he weren’t a Russian simp, why would Ukraine tell anyone? An 18 month long attack is just tooo much invested to risk losing the surprise

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin's move. Would have confidently proven that tRump is an asset if moves were made to the fake target. Trap this fucker and then public punishment!

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or maybe this op was withheld because they had already done that.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Hopefully, we don't hear about some intelligence agent with a new book coming out in the future regarding how tRump was a known asset for the Kremlin and how he was caught red-handed giving info to Putin in some false-flag operation.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin’s move.

Putin, the Saudis, Israel, FIFA...

Trump's White House possibly has the highest listening-devices-per-sqft of any office on the planet. I wonder if signal interference is a problem.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

It works like Mr. Burns' immune system. Everyone is trying to listen in on Trump, but they step on each others toes and cancel out.

Star Fleet Intelligence also operates on this principle.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

I can just see Putin, Saudis, Netanyahu sitting around a table bickering about who gets the best bandwidth from listening equipment at the oval office, because little children just refuse to share...

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Ukraine doesn't give intel to obvious Russkie mole"

Yeah, no shit

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would be more curious to know if there is anyone downstream of Trump working within the Pentagon/CIA that's still actively coordinating US intelligence with Ukranian forces.

Like, is the entire US military cut out of Ukrainian operations at the NATO level. Or is some faction within the Joint Chiefs pulling a SpaceX and giving Trump/Hegseth the Elon Musk busy-box while they run things outside his purview?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I would not tell Krasnov jack shit about any military operation.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Ukraine is a sovereign country, they don't need to tell Don anything.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. As a courtesy they might give trusted allies a few hours notice, or at least inform them when the op has started. But unless they needed the assistance of an ally in planning and preparing such an attack then informing anybody well ahead of time serves no useful purpose at all.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

No US weaponry was used in this righteous attack either, literally no reason to put the US in the loop

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There is nothing anyone should discuss with Cheeto, he is dumb and works for russians. There is absolutely no value in that person, he is a completely worthless useless being.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

He's worse than worthless, he's actively harmful

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You do not inform enemy agents of your secret military operations.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

This first time I saw this headline I was like “YEAH, why would they???”

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 338 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Why would anyone even consider telling any politicians of foreign nations about a top secret project like that, much less blabbermouths like Donald Trump?

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 225 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd be surprised if Ukraine isn't feeding Trump false info to see if Russia reacts to it

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dont know about false, but a good mix of low priority targets.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Dantooine. Zelenskyy is on Dantooine.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 39 points 2 days ago

"Deliberately blindsided" is a little strong. We're not even officially an ally of Ukraine. They don't owe us, or anyone else jack shit as far as their war plans for defending their country. Add to that the fact that Trump is credibly accused of being a Russian asset and defers to their interests 99% of the time... Why the fuck would you trust us right now!?

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Between nations that share trust and respect, theoretically, it would give them time to reposition themselves to the coming reality, and perhaps more importantly, give any assets they have in the area a warning to keep their heads down/not step on any toes.

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

this has been planned long before TACO came into office. how about something is not about mUrICa?

[–] Scottyc65@reddthat.com 196 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Considering Trump is a Russian asset, that was a smart move to keep him out of the loop.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They need to false flag him next time

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 105 points 2 days ago

Oh, is that why it was such an effective attack?

[–] Birch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

They should feed the taco some fake intel, e.g. some abandoned shed in the middle of nowhere being a secret drone factory and if it gets obliterated the next day...

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago

Good, thats what they should do

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Probably sounds better in Ukrainian but "Operation Spider-web" is still fucking badass

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Apparebtly, it is Операція "Павутиння"... it sounds pretty badass to me

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 125 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah you don't typically tell the enemy about your secret attack plans

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As they should in the future as well.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good. He'd have fucking spilled the beans

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

LOOK AT THE FIREPLACE! No fake spray gold ornamentation! What the shit?!? Is the Oval Office a reality tv show set? Compare the fireplace from when Zelenskyy visited to Ramaphosa’s visit on May 25:

That’s some heinous Temu-quality decor! stay classy USA

🤡

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The u.s is not an ally to any of us, we have to purposely hide things from them or government and treat them as spies for Russia.

[–] LogicalFallacy@lemm.ee 35 points 2 days ago

The US isn't even an ally to itself.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You do what you must when your life is on the line

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And what you absolutely must do is not say a fuckin word to trump. Unless maybe you want him to pass disinformation to Putin.

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[–] sircac@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What kind of twisted toxic argument is to phrase it like that and call it news?

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[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As is appropriate.

I'm trying to recall a disco song from, I believe, the 1970s whose lyrics in the chorus went somewhat like the following - though I might be mistaken:

"That's the way uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh"

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[–] goofus@lemmy.today 72 points 2 days ago

Why inform Putin's Bitch?

[–] Vari@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

Guys they did the same for Biden. Sure, trump is Putins puppet but this is standard for such massive ops.

[–] mgnome@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago

Plans love silence.

And it's never been truer. Doesn't even matter who sits in White House, strictly Ukrainian business that had to pass through as little ears as possible.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Was it because Trump didn’t say “thank you” after the last time Ukraine shared top secret war plans?

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