Crazy that some seem to suggest you can't care about whales heading towards extinction without being a level 6 Vegan.
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Yup. I’m very opposed to whaling - they’re magnificent creatures - but I’m not giving up my hamburger any time soon.
I mean you can, you're just somewhat of a hypocrite
How much experience does it take to level up, btw?
Please explain how someone is being a hypocrite for caring about species that are heading towards extinction
By only caring about some species, while partaking in one of the most destructive habits a person (*that is not filthy rich) can do, thus driving up biodiversity loss and species extinction
You're making a lot assumptions here.
For one. You don't have to be a vegan to care about biodiversity. It is as simple as choosing to care and being selective in sourcing your groceries. That goes for produce as well. Since many farmers use pesticides that kill bees, or fertilizers that damages ground water.
I know you have different morals when it comes to choice of protein. But that does in no way prohibit one from caring about species as a whole.
you're right, I should actually support whaling.
This is not an isolated issue. This is how we treat animals and other humans (regarding the harpooning, we only do it figuratively to other humans, not literally).
Go vegan.
We do it literally to other humans, look Gaza or South Sudan
You're right. Probably should be mostly figuratively to humans, but also literally. And we also do it figuratively to the whales by destroying and polluting the ocean ecosystems.
People's morality about slaughtering meat is going to flip so hard once we get affordable lab grown meat, future generations will think of us as utter savages. But until then I don't think it's going to happen at scale
What does veganism have to do with opposing whale hunting?
It's not just whales, one could draw the same comic about other animals being hunted or factory farmed, it would be very traumatic to live through. In fact Disney made an animated one about deer.
Factory farming is indeed very bad. But the way to fix it isn't to go vegan. The way to fix it is to campaign legislators to change the laws to stop factory farming. And being vegan, you've basically deleted yourself from that particular equation. Because now no one has any reason to listen to you on the subject.
Your point makes no sense.
I thought I provided that connection by mentioning the harm we're doing to almost all animals.
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If you eat basically any form of meat, I have some bad news for you...
There's whale meat in my steak!?
I do give deer hunting a pass because they're overpopulated in places (because humans wiped out their native predators).
Feel free to try and change my mind so I can wipe that off my ever-shrinking personal "ethically ok to eat meats" list. For all I know this is one of those lies I was raised with that I've not examined since childhood. Edit: context is in Kentucky, USA 20 years ago. I don't know about deer populations elsewhere and elsewhen.
Former vegan, current pescatarian here.
Dont stop hunting, please. Humans did a phenomenal job of ensuring a required hunting season for deer by wiping out all the natural predators, now without them we have to have culls. If you participate in said culls, PLEASE eat the meat, use the pelt, give the antlers to your dog. We've forced ourselves into a position where some of us MUST take up the mantle of predator. If you choose to, just be responsible with the carcass so it didn't die for no good reason.
Edit: accidentally lied, I'm not a vegetarian I'm a pescatarian who outside of her 6 shrimp a week is vegan.
To add a wrinkle: there's now "farmed deer". It's supposedly more environmentally friendly than farmed cow, but I don't like it because •vague feelings I've not fully examined•.
So don't assume any venison you find in the grocery store was hunted.
Farmed cervids are why CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease) is a thing. It's a prion disease. Farmed venison has a high probability of being CWD positive.
It's called a high fence operation. Rich fucks actually pay for a canned hunt inside the fence so they get a big antlered wall hanger.
Myself and my family like to eat does. Curbs population faster and tends to be better meat. We live in a county that is overpopulated with white tail.
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Vague feelings? I think your feelings are pretty spot-on, farming an animal whose population is already excessive in the wild is bizarre.
Wild deer are more environmentally friendly than farmed deer.
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Whales are the farmers of the sea. They fertilize the open oceans and produce more food than they eat. Especially the biggest ones, like the fin whales Japan has decided to hunt again. So if you like sea food, maybe don't kill the whales.
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I mean yes, but what do you think happens to regular fish
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