Counterpoint: the press won't allow a lefty leftleft government to get elected, so Labour see centrism as their only route to power. Look at how they stitched up Corbyn.
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I agree that needs to be done up until the election, but now Labour have a massive majority and no election for over 4 years. There's no need to be pandering to the right at the point.
No need to be more right then they promised.
But democracy requires them not to go more left either.
This whole win the election by lying to the public sounds very Tory.
(In lieu of development, Nairn contended, nationalism gives the masses “something real and important.”)
It seems this is the illusion of "real," am I missing something?
Margaret Thatcher famously identified Blair as her greatest political achievement. Starmer might yet come to represent a similar victory for Nigel Farage.
Seems a bit of a pyrrhic victory, to me. It saddens and annoys to see the whole Western world following the neophyte nation state's worst examples with history-proven terrible consequences, while throwing out the baby and bathwater, for anything decent we accomplished.
From outside looking in, kicking the Tories to the fucking curb is a huge accomplishment. Maybe the UK could even try to rejoin the EU in the future with the rate things are improving.
From outside looking in, kicking the Tories to the fucking curb is a huge accomplishment.
This is more of an own goal from the Tories rather than there being a serious competent alternative.
Does it even matter when it's the same policies repackaged as different politicians with different labels, is my point.
Labour wants to tax corporations and the rich, I guess ignorance of policy wasn't unique to the USA.
Here, check this out: LABOUR MANIFESTO
Left collumn is where they're getting money right collumn is where they're putting it. Also notice the Green Prosperity plan further down.
https://labour.org.uk/change/break-down-barriers-to-opportunity/#respect
We will also modernise, simplify, and reform the intrusive and outdated gender recognition law to a new process. We will remove indignities for trans people who deserve recognition and acceptance;
Hmm.
Going forward, hope they stick to the script.
Did this happen before or after the outcry against proposed social spending cuts?
Progress is progress, no matter how small.
I don't think UK is progressing. To be honest it seems to be regressing these days. Each new day it's becoming more and more a police state with secret policing and surveilance powers being passed.
JFC ya'll forgot real fast what it was like with the Tories in power.
That's the point. It was happening under Tories and continues to happen under Labour. Either way, you seem to be very invested in supporting them as an outsider.
Yeah because I want to keep our enemies down: Tories, AfD, and Republicans are the same vein and the failures of the USA's DNC and the German SPD and Greens could happen to the UK as well.
AfD
you mean Reform UK?
Swapping out one government for another with identical policies on key issues like sustainability, xenophobia, and genocide is not progress.
Ah yes. Key issues. Those issues. We all know the ones. Just not taxation. Not funding services like hospitals, nurseries, mental health. Not the environment, either. Actually very little they agree on other than Defence and Law Enforcement.