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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"They have backed up their genocidal rhetoric with a program to develop nuclear weapons."

Netanyahu's not in the best position to accuse others of genocidal rhetoric backed up with powerful weaponry.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

It's good old Projection: every accusation is an admission.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

No need to change nukes to weaponry, Israel has nukes too.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Are they running out of people to murder in Gaza? Or do they just need someone to fight back, so they can look oppressed?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Neither. Internal politics in Israel threatened to break up the government, and starting a war with Iran was the easiest way to stop that. Can't break up the government now, we're in a state of emergency!

Bibi would sooner burn down all of Israel than step down from power.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, exactly this. He'd rather destroy the entire country than lose power, in part because as soon as he loses power he's likely going to prison for the rest of his life.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

Sounds familiar...

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The moment they stop fighting is the moment they have to collectively come to terms with what they have done as a nation. Netanyahoo has to keep it going.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Netanyahoo lmao

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The US is obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons in order to maintain a "qualitative military edge" against all potential threats. This unfortunately incentivizes Israel to maintain a high threat level, in order to increase the amount of weapons it receives.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

obligated by law, to keep sending them weapons

Can you expand on that?

There are agreements but to which extent are they binding? I guess they are not unconditional.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

This explains it in better detail than I could. It isn't so much a single law, but rather a lot of different laws that all work together to ensure that Israel is given everything it could possibly need for its own defense...even bypassing normal regulatory measures in the process, as long as certain conditions are maintained.

Israel has invested tens of millions of dollars lobbying for, and helping to write, the legislation that guarantees their continuous access to weapons. A lot of it is written directly into defense spending bills that are essential for domestic defense spending as well. So, without a massive shift in policy at the legislative level to disentangle those priorities, that support is legally binding.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago

The US is obligated by law,

Yea, that's a law we passed, right? One which we could repeal, too?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"By law". It's just a convenient excuse for genocidal immorality. It's not like words on paper matter to anyone in power in the West, you'd definitely be blind to think otherwise.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"The West" is a bit too broad don't you think.

I think that's blinkered, if not blind. Definitely.

And that username... (edit: oh look they just changed it from "ArgumentativeMonotheist" to "YappyMonotheist")

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You had me in the first sentence; not gonna lie. The second one, though, just goes off the rails.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago

Trump started all this shit when he ruined the last nuclear deal in his first term.

He sure is great at fucking everything up, and sowing chaos.

[–] pixelkitty@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wonder if this is what the US missiles redirected from Ukraine went to….

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Lol, but the media keeps saying... "Trump was against this! He was trying to work with Iran "

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There isn't a dearth of missiles. This is just another convenient excuse to weaken Ukraine.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Here are the global knock-on effects of Trumpism. The world has been afraid of this for years. And mind you, it's not because the USA is losing its grip, its role of world police. It's because of fucked-up diplomacy dominated by egomania, backing the wrong allies in the wrong way. And being so dumb that you're easily exploitable.

I'm sorry for once again seeing every conflict through USian eyes - Americans do that well enough by themselves - but in this case it's just true. Fuck Trump, Fuck Netanyahu. Let's hope this nightmare ends soon.


From the article:

A U.S. official told CNN that the United States had no involvement or assistance in the Israeli strikes

Um, sure. No involvement at all during the last 8 decades.

And Netanyahu:

"This is a clear and present danger to Israel's very survival. 80 years ago the Jewish people were the victims of a holocaust perpetrated by the Nazi regime. Today, the Jewish state refuses to be a victim of a nuclear holocaust, perpetrated by the Iranian regime."

‌ Of course they stick to that one however nonsensical it has become, considering Israel is the Nazi regime now, inflicting its own holocaust on others.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Zionist regime is a rogue state. It threatens the security of mankind.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately it also has the backing of a much larger rogue state.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aw.

Did we get too close to getting along again?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You think Iran, the country that supplies weapons to

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

I think I don't like war. Period.

I can realistically understand the reasons given for it, but that's never going to make me like it.

Anyone else shitting themselves about this?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is this going to lead to WW3?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this is WW3. Just more like FFA rather than teams.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone please explain why two middle eastern states trying to annihilate each other is WW3.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget Ukraine and Russia. That's why it's more FFA.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Will not, world war cost a lot for the country involved, this might just be another regional war and proxy war combined.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

That's 3 countries and Palestine, which is also a country in my book.

"Defense"

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Crazy that within just a couple weeks Ukraine and now Israel have successfully smuggled drones into a country. Terrifying new vector of war.

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