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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 107 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Okay don't think the FTC said Shit hole, no need to hyperbolize everything

[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would slide them $5 for them to openly swear though

[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Damn… that is 2000% their annual budget.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly. The document simply states

“We're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat.”

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago

Good ol' Jay. He is a wordsmith.

[–] jonne 18 points 2 years ago

Would be cooler if they did, tho

[–] charles@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the title of OPs linked article. What's a lemming to do?

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Amazon is literally aliexpress but with a more sophisticated UI.

Nothing but absolute shit chinese knock off products. No longer can you get the same kind of savings like you could in the past. You're basically paying full retail now, plus prime or shipping.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Ali has good stuff depending on what you're buying. Amazon usually has the exact same stuff for like 50% more

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to shop exclusively on Banggood. At the time AliExpress was sketchy.

A few years ago they flip flopped. Now Banggood is hot garbage, and AliExpress isn't bad.

Gearbest, Temu, and Wish were always bad in my experience.

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[–] LukeMedia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, unless I need something ASAP, I usually only buy name brands, but not expensive items on Amazon. Other stuff I go to Ali for and just wait a little longer. Expensive stuff I buy in person or directly from the manufacturer when possible. Recently I've been trying to supplement Amazon purchases with small businesses where possible.

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[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sellers even drop ship from AliExpress and similar sites. Basically every time the shipping is quoted longer than a week it's probably drop shipped from one of the Chinese sites. They add $5-$10 to the price and take their cut without ever touching the product.

[–] SamHandwich@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago

I canceled my prime membership and stopped using Amazon entirely after I ordered something that turned out to be drop shipped straight from Walmart. But online shopping in general is a nightmare these days.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Prime AND shipping half the time these days.

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 83 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My favorite enshittification of Amazon is how you can filter products by manufacturer, but only if the manufacturer is a reputable company like JOOGEE or XZzy or GoodTime and not those weird no-name companies like Anker or Samsung.

[–] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Won't even bring up the brands I like unless I search for them specifically, even then they're not the first result. Amazon gives the ad space to brands that are around for 3 months then poof.

[–] mPony@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

but you should buy stuff from Smorkyaplorb Megasystems because they give the best kickbacks

[–] llama@midwest.social 16 points 2 years ago

Oh and I love when I sort by price and half the results disappear.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago

My favorite enshittification of Amazon is that, plus, the bonus fact the filtering acts different if you pay for prime. The filtering works better with prime. It should work the same regardless if one pays for prime or not.

They basically deliver a shopping experience that is worse unless you pay them money monthly. It's enshittification two layers of abstraction deep.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 68 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't even get the sorting method to work. It shows me a few items that match the sorting at first, then it goes all over the place. Utterly useless.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I sometimes resort to using Google to find the Amazon item I need.

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Either that or it gives you like 3 results after filtering, even though there were pages of matching results before the filter was applied.

[–] DreddNYC@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Amazon has to deal with their counterfeit merchandise problem. Try to buy a memory card on Amazon and odds are you get a bogus counterfeit card.

[–] Massada42@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

It’s broken for us, it works just fine for them.

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got counterfeit Dove soap.

[–] bobman@unilem.org 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Amazon has the money to vet its products and provide better search results, it just chooses not to because it doesn’t need to.

Better to shove a shitty, expensive product in customer’s faces than a cheap, standard one.

[–] charles@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not only that, Amazon has the mechanisms to prevent counterfeiting today: dedicated bins for individual sellers products. They just make the vendors pay an extra fee to use it.

Literally extorting their sellers. "Gee it'd be a shame if some counterfeit merchandise were to be sold instead of yours. I could protect you from that"

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[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For a while I used amazon as a "product browser", I would shop for what I want on there, and then go buy it straight from the manufacturer or whatever online marketplace the seller prefers.

Now, it has gotten so bad, it isn't even useful for that. Amazon will show you 50 overpriced knockoffs of the thing you'd actually want to buy without ever showing you the real thing unless you already know the brand name of what you want ahead of time. The reviews are useless too now, everything has 4 1/2 stars and the same substanceless reviews.

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I remember at one point that Amazon was amazing. Now days it's a crapshoot on product quality and delivery time.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Etsy is now just as enshittified. Almost everything on there is dropshipped bullshit from AliExpress. You have to trudge through a massive amount of crap listings just to find anything handmade.

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[–] ITypeWithMyDick@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

The continuation of enshitification

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 45 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I ordered a standard deck of cards. Should be simple enough, right? They never arrived. I waited a full month. I finally reached out to Amazon customer support and demanded to know what happened to my deck of cards. Their response was unbelievable: "We're dealing with it."

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where do you live?

American here who uses Amazon frequently (at least 20 times a year).

I'm not debating that frequently, I get the wrong order or something that's clearly fake. But if there's one thing, their support is top notch.

I got a $400 foldable bike that was broken on delivery because of bad packaging, and they said we're replace it. I said I'll keep it since I can still fix it and they discounted me 20% to repair it.

In my previous place, we had lots of theft. 1 out of 4 deliveries. Amazon replaced every single one, no questions. One wasn't even a theft, some neighbor accidentally took mine. I told Amazon and they said keep it.

Every other store, I always get shit. Walmart is the absolute worst. Target is significantly better. But Amazon, no questions asked for me.

I have a decade of stories like this of their support.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 38 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't use Amazon. It's not like they are the only web shop for stuff you would like to have.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I've had good luck with drop.com for electronics.

Have any recommendations? Sometimes it's hard to beat the convenience of Amazon.

[–] ChewTiger@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Drop used to be so much better before the rename.

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[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Between home depot, target, best buy, and walmart I can typically find most things I'm looking for.

I usually try to shop by reviewers first and check if the manufacturer sells directly. Retailers don't need to get a chunk of every purchase.

[–] daemoz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Amazon and bezos sucks, but Walmart and the Waltons is evil condensed. the only excuse to shop walmart is if it's the only option for 100 miles. Amazon at least has aws and few redeeming pro services that pay their employees and provide infastructure to others.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

I swear by the time FTC notices, they've been doing it for like 10 years already

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

IDK what’s worse…that this is a thing, or that I’m so accustomed to Amazon’s shenanigans that I’m used to heading into the dark web of results, aka Page 2, in order to find exactly what I’m looking for.

That said, charging cables are kind of a bad example. I’m prepared to spend $10 on a 6-pack of varying lengths of Brand X cables I’ll replace next year as opposed to one $25 Apple-approved MFi cable that I’ll also replace next year.

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Not gonna lie, it's almost refreshing to hear FTC acknowledge what's been true for years

[–] HububBub@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

Can confirm.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Kick Amazon's ass FTC!

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

DAE remember the Walmart, High Cost of Low Prices movie?

[–] firadin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Lina Khan is staking her career on this one, but the way the US judiciary looks there's no way Amazon suffers.

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