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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 167 points 1 month ago (5 children)

% per 100k? This person is making a valid point, but it's undermined somewhat by the fact they've clearly fucked up something.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what I figured they meant.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Yeah, but those other stats are raw numbers. Okay, we have a higher number of unhoused people and food-insecure people, but we also have a higher number of people, period. If you wanna make a point, it has to be per capita. I like how the first stat got this right, but the others did not.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 13 points 1 month ago

Ya might be a good point but it’s a distracting mess

Thankfully we already know a little bit about both of our situations so we get the gist

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[–] ThePiedPooper@discuss.online 112 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Fuck proselytizing religions. No, I won't join your stupid fucking cult. Fuck right off.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Fuck all religion. No I don’t want to reject reality to play make believe.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Naw, my religion is cool. I'm a Satanist. We accept reality as revealed by science.

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I do not trust any stats that come out of Japan in terms of homelessness. If there's a statistic that's embarrassing for Japanese society, you know damn well they're gonna try to cover it up with technicalities.

In Japan, the legal definition for someone who is homeless is: "those who use city parks, riverbanks, roads, train stations and other facilities as their place of stay in order to live their daily lives."

So that doesn't include living in your car, living in insecure housing, living in shelters, or living in internet cafés, of which in 2020 there were about 15,000 'net café refugees' in Tokyo alone.

Sooo yeah, Japan can claim to officially have a super low homeless population, because they've narrowed the definition so much that you have to literally be sleeping on the street for it to count.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yeah they also fail to acknowledge the suicide rate or the amount of overtime or purchasing power of avg wages.

I'm not making any statements on any countries other than japan. but I'll add a message to american weebs: STOP FETISHIZING JAPAN

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've lived in three different major Japanese cities and see fewer people sleeping rough in a year than I can see in an hour in either Europe or the US.

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[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago

They cover it with Hideo Kojima

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[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago (9 children)

07%

This is why punctuation is important.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Never mind that, what does "07% per 100K" even mean? As far as I can tell that evaluates to 0.0000007 or 7 per 10 million

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I just woke up, but I don't think the unit should be percentage per 100k people. Otherwise, I agree with the statement though.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not only that, 07 > 5.7, I assume missing a decimal point. Their heart is in the right place, their keyboard is all over the place.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your unhoused numbers are wrong. Those are the official "sleeping on the streets" numbers, which is not the same thing. First because they're official, and therefore almost certainly undercounting, and second because they exclude all of the situations where people don't have houses but are kinda not exactly in a cardboard box.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

To be fair though it’s the ones living on the street that people choose to hate on as much as possible

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

To be fair there is also the suicide rate.

Also what the fuck were they expecting, Japan to be some Christian paradise?

[–] ryan@discuss.online 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

First time I've actually taken the time to look it up. People talk about Japans high suicide rate but apparently it's not that much higher than the United States? So less murder, more food availability and just a slightly higher suicide rate?

[–] aramova 16 points 1 month ago

When people don't have murder, homeless, ramped theft, they need some boogie man metric for the crier to report on.

And for Japan, the marginally higher suicide rate along with low population growth are it.

Of course the low rate of Christianity as well.

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[–] webpack@ani.social 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

correlation is not causation, the reason why they have less murders is probably not Christianity (for example they have way stricter gun control)

edit: after rereading the post I don't think the other person is tryng to argue that Christianity is causing murder and whatnot, so ignore above paragraph

also wouldn't it make complete sense for Japan to have way less Christians since they were isolated for so long and have their own religious beliefs

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago

Also, Christianity was banned for quite awhile.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A Japanese guy used a 3d printed gun to undermine a christian cult in Japan.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Moonies are so wacky that calling them “Christian” is a stretch. Definitely not aligned with the Nicene creed, and I think once the founder/prophet claims some sort of divinity it’s better to refer to as Christian derived.

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[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This part of 'what your bible says about murder and poor people' makes it sound like the writer of the response believes it's causational but i think they were just offended and not trying to make a scientifically sound argument. And i would understand that.

It's almost racist because of how the first post makes Christianity sound like something superior. As if the Japanese being different in their believe makes them less.

also wouldn't it make complete sense for Japan to have way less Christians since they were isolated for so long and have their own religious beliefs

Exactly this. Although Japanese rulers haven't always been very peaceful, their culture is known for being caring and respectful towards others where as Americans are by many people seen as loud and obnoxious (also positive things, but i'm not trying to make a comparison between two cultures as a whole), making this comment about Japanese adoption of Christianity not only come across as ignorant but also very arrogant.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's more a statement of the state of Christianity in the United States, where in a lot of congregations the actual teachings of Jesus have taken a back seat to gun culture and right wing politics.

She's saying that the Japanese are better Christians than Americans, despite not even being Christians.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

What's going on with the math here? Percent per 100'000?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's what you have to use because they have fewer people per capita. It's basic math.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

5/7 with rice

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I guess not having many Jesus cult members helps

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some people are shockingly stupid, even though I've spent my entire life finding out how stupid people can be.

[–] HenryDorsett@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I worked in retail for a decade, and have been in IT for past 12 years. Mostly help desk. Mostly medical.

The advanced degrees these people have is astounding, but the lack of common sense is terrifying.

Like, these people are cutting into other people to fix shit? They can't tie their own shoes, and the concept of a power button on a computer is too much.

This is the same person. Hopefully he has retired or died by now, cause those were his only real choices at that age.

Seriously, his assistant tied his shoes for him. She probably had advanced degrees of her own. And she had to tie an old man's shoes on the daily.

Maybe there something to have such a laser focus like medicine specialties really does rob people of their common sense.

Tie? Shoe? No, but that artery is about to retract or some shit.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

Heartbroken because it should be 0%?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 16 points 1 month ago

Given the confluence of weeb culture and the alt-right (think incels and “traditionalists” with anime avatars, right-wing gamers pointing to Japan as a high-tech conservative utopia untouched by wokeness and such), it was inevitable that sooner or later someone would try to imagine a Japan that goes to Latin Mass.

[–] don@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Admittedly, ignorance respects no particular faith. That said, Christianity does seem to have quite the stranglehold on it.

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Japan also has a terrifyingly high conviction rate, something those Christians would cream themselves over.

[–] KatakiY@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you measure the us conviction rate the same way the commonly quoted 99% conviction rate in Japan is calculated ours is actually higher.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate scroll down to the Japan entry for the source. Sorry don't know how to link it directly lol

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Japan is just gaming the numbers here. Both with the conviction rate and with the homeless ratio.

https://www.examiner.org.hk/2025/01/17/the-invisible-homeless-in-japan/features/

According to this link, if you apply western metrics, Japan would have between 100k and 200k homeless. Which would mean Japan has 81.2-162.4 homeless per 100k inhabitants, while the USA has 221.7.

That would make Japan a bit better than the USA, but it's not that much of a difference any more.

[–] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

I don't think she's really sorry about their heart

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Is there something wrong with her heart? Maybe she needs to go see a doc... oh, wait nvm. We'll just pray the pain away for her.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The US is really just a big social experiment trying to prove a point.

I'm not sure what that point is, but it's definitely out there.

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