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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

honestly i had no idea that FDR was a Muslim.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago

he won four times. FOUR! they made a rule that you cant win more than twice because he never would have lost!

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It really hurts the money politicians make in political contributions and perks.

My sick elderly family will be stricken to hear this

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

“Oh, so you’re here to take my picture. Should I smile or someth–“

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 29 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But hear me out, let's just give the current racist fascists a chance first.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Voting for the blue racist fascist is how we got here!

Turns out people who want racist fascists are going to vote republican anyway.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Trump's votes barely increased but over 8 Million more people voted for Biden than Harris. We haven't had more than 50 DNC in the senate for over 12 years.

Voting for the blue is demonstrably fucking not how we got here. Not voting blue is how we got here.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Voting blue when they give us dogshit policies that help nobody and politicians who do nothing to stop Republicans, when they arent just doing republican's jobs for them is why the dems keep losing against the "make everything worse" party.

Look at the competition. Against that, america should be a 1 party state, instead we have dems going to war, funding ICE (clinton did not do this, because ICE did not exist), and kicking the shit out of the politically activated youth they need to get people to vote showing generation after generation that they are a dead end for positive social change.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

Dogshit policies like Medicaid for all, removing money from politics (again), and taxing the rich.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Policies they don't actually support. If they did, they wouldnt let Manchin or Liberman or the parliamentarian or "norms" stop them. We've seen the dems can smash through barriers the same way Republicans can, they did it to illegally send weapons to Israel. We've seen they can whip votes and discipline their own party, they do it to any progressive who doesnt fall in line.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

They've literally done these things whenever and to however much extent possible. You seem to think having permanently 50 or less senators overcomes the supermajority. It's like you're not even capable of parsing that information.

[–] barkingspiders 103 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Just read his Address at Madison Square Garden, New York City, October 31, 1936. The whole thing still feels very relevant and is a worthwhile (and not too long) read. The quote that stuck with me today was:

We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

We could use another FDR I think

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

We could use another FDR I think

It would have to be someone who might be wealthy enough not to care about where to get more campaign funding, but moral enough not to be greedy and silver-spooned.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It wasnt morality that made an oligarch promote social democracy. People forget FDR's last name was Roosevelt.

He'd watched his predecessor send in the tanks to raze a camp of protesters infront of the capitol, and in the previous 20 years saw the Russian Revolution, a failed revolution in Germany, and being old-money, had a broader perspective on keeping his class on top than the short-sighted new money.

FDR wasnt embracing socialism, he was buying guillotine insurance to save capitalism.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

A lot of people are dismissive of Roosevelt simply because he's old money. Socialists dream that he should have gone further left. If he didn't genuinely cared, business leaders would not have tried to coup him. I read somewhere that someone overheard a rich woman call FDR a class traitor. The Bretton Woods Agreement which he had drawn up did not invite any businesses for opinions. And it's not groundbreaking to say that FDR wasn't fully bringing America into socialism. All that shows FDR has only gone as far left as anyone could accept at the time.

[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My hope is for pritzker.

He's be the perfect class traitor, but sadly, I don't think he has enough dog in him to be what we need

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 27 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If we got another FDR, I think I would have a heart attack from joy. Someone who will fucking fight for us. Jesus the bar is so low at this point.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

It wouldn’t matter as long as Congress, the courts, and the states remain as undemocratically corrupt as they are now. The US is cooked and isn’t going to get better. The best case scenario is that it falls apart and the states form new, sovereign entities. The fascists won’t just disappear, and they wont learn any lessons from the current administration or from reaping what they sow.

Short of massive, unprecedented, and devastating civil action, there is no hope.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

I don't know how I feel about how relevant 95% of that speech was.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Political parties don't cater to people who don't vote

Or people who do, if they dont give money.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

And in the USA you vote with your ~~wallet~~ offshore bank account. You don't have the right to complain until you've voted with at least 6 figures.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Am Democrat

Am not terrified

All criticisms of said Democrat I have seen are of his opinion on Israel, which also differ from the example here.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 43 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Watching Mamdani interview Trump voters in NYC really woke me. Tired of all the hateful takes on these people. They want politicians to listen and act and thought Trump would do that. No, they weren't paying attention the first go-round, but Trump got their emotions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FcVCYqQNs

If you really want to understand Trump voters, and what we need to do to get progressives in office, have a look:

https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about

True now as it was 8 years ago.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 hours ago

Tired of all the hateful takes on these people. They want politicians to listen and act and thought Trump would do that. No, they weren't paying attention the first go-round, but Trump got their emotions.

Sure, I got that the first go around. It was the second time that cemented things for me. Nobody was ignorant of who and what Trump was in 2024. Those are the people I think are hateful bigots willing to burn down the entire country if only it'll take a few undesirables out with them.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 23 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Yup. From the outside, it's been reasonably obvious since 2007: The current system isn't working, and the ones who offer to change things are the ones who will actually get the votes.

This became even more apparent post-covid: Biden offered a return to normalcy, while Trump wanted to "fix everything". You can say what you want about Trump (and I will probably agree with most of it), but he offered something else than the same old neolib system that has failed more and more people every year.

The problem with today's mainstream politicians is that one side tries to return to Obama era "middle ground" policies while the other side can be summed up by this shamelessly stolen comic:

A sensible politician who wants to win an election needs to understand that "the middle ground" no longer means not stepping on toes. The middle ground these days means shaking up the current system to provide basic necessities for those who have been ignored for decades. People turn fascist for the same reason people turn tankie; when you're starving and someone promises all the potatoes you can drink, of course that sounds better than the current situation.

I truly hope Mamdani or someone like him gets to appear as more than "ermagerd scary communist" to the right side, because I'm sure most of those who would insta-hate "The left" actually can get behind a lot of the actual policies once they get beyond the politics.

I'm all for rainbow-rights, eco-friendly living, and diversity, but most peoples priorities are a lot more immediate: putting food in the table. Let's all hope the DNC realizes this.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Was working for hardcore Southern Baptists several years back. They admitted they liked Bernie's words. Also, they hated George Bush. I'm certain they hate Trump with every fiber of their soul, but they're brainwashed into hating "socialism". Smart men! Just can't get past "liberal bad".

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

In other words, the other major Trump constituency (aside from conservatives obviously) is gullible people who got swindled.

That wasn't really a revelation to me and, while I do have some pity for those people, I also think they deserve every bit of hate they get for fucking up so badly that they've destroyed the whole country. We are suffering the consequences of their laziness and stupidity, and that almost pisses me off even more than the fuckwads who voted for fascism on purpose.

Also, 1:10 in the video:

There were young voters who didn't vote for her [Kamala Harris] because of the genocide, and I wouldn't have voted for her if I did, but I did vote for her, obviously, because I have common sense."

😆😆😆

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 24 points 10 hours ago

Remember how FDR got reelected so many times they amended the constitution after he died to keep presidents to two terms?

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If democrats are successful and get consistently elected, then that means they have to actually do something and run on a platform beyond “I’m not Republican” to not get primaried.

Establishment Dems hate success and progress. Progressives are doing good.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Only corrupt people who are willing to "play ball" for the rich get into office. Trump is part of the service economy for the rich (the Dempublican kingmakers).

They won't interrupt their bosses when they're having a good time.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Democratic leaders are largely useless, if not outright cowards, cheats, and/or frauds*

There, FTFY.

[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

You forgot spineless, which I would say is distinct from cowards. But yes, It's much more accurate now.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

If FDR were alive today, Richie Torries would make it his life's goal to tip him out of his wheelchair.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Why would individual Dems upset their bosses (the wealthy people who paid Trump cash presents on inauguration day).

The wealthy of each state haven't changed or lost power, they've increased it. Good people don't get into office, only people who "play ball" with them do. Dems aren't going to upset the game for you... You, the crowd have to storm the pitch.