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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago

I mean, there is almost certainly no "The List", "2003-02-23: Donald John Trump, 3 pedophilia, paid by bank transfer".
There are terabytes of call logs, text messages, videos, photos, location logs, witness testimonies, whatever samples, and fuck knows what else.

[–] Bytemite@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Stephen King is absolutely the next person I think is going to have some heinous shit come out about him, like happened with Gaiman. Too many years writing in a cocaine haze, on record defenses of Woody Allen marrying the step daughter he raised, the whole thing with the ending of IT.

Not commenting on the Epstein List, tbh it's political football and I don't know if we'll ever have anything confirmed until well after anyone who could be impacted by it is gone. King's just one of those people who if you look close enough there's reasons to be suspicious, but who is such an industry giant that I think no one wants to say anything.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Of all the things to publicly tell on yourself with. Damn man.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 7 points 22 hours ago

It's definitely real, even if it is just the list of 150 Epstein associates that were unsealed years ago. If there was anything more, it ceased to exist during the first Trump administration.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Nobody is going to release a real list because it will exclusively hurt the rich and powerful.

Trump Part 1 didn't, Biden didn't, Trump won't do it now.

There definitely is a list. Probably not a spreadsheet or a black book, but you have to make schedules and appointments work. Double booking diddlers is bad business. There are records.

What has been established by the media is that there is a list (whether true or not) and being on that list is damning. Unfortunately we're at a point where if a list is released, anyone with a brain would have to doubt it as being nothing more than a political tool, and anyone without a brain will immediately try to crucify anyone on it.

All the back and forth and hemming and hawing buys time to figure out who to put on the list. Get all the Democrat names you like, but finding enough Republicans to put on the list, but not anyone who'll rat (preferably dead) is the tricky part. Gotta make it halfway believable.

It's sad that instead of bringing the worst people in our society to justice, this will either be swept under the rug or set fire to the Reichstag.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Stephen King is on the list.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago

I think that's the only reason for this change in tune from the guy.

IMO, it's blatant and transparent.

[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I think this is pretty unlikely, but will apologize if im wrong. My logic is that Trump already hates King and has openly feuded with him. Since there haven't been any criminal cases yet, it seems that whatever evidence is in the files wasn't enough for DOJ to feel like they could win a conviction, but because Trump is a petulant dumb fuck I expect he would have made Bondi bring charges for even the most tenous circumstantial evidence if it was against someone he doesn't like. But then again Trump may think the files give him leverage over anyone even barely mentioned in the files and not want to lose that leverage, so I could be absolutely wrong.

[–] Gaylactus@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Well, you have no reason to apologize, at this point, everyone is just speculating. However, I think the only reasonable and logical explanation, is that Stephen King is somehow, involved. He never was in any capacity or position to know everything in the case in detail. So he's either lying about his certainty and knowledge, or he is involved, no other inference can be made.

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I'd like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It's not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I'll believe he's a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.

Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? "We did it ~~reddit~~ lemmy!"

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago

I have a suggestion: Just assume every billionaire diddles kids anyway.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This isn't surprising really, especially after the Neil Gaiman thing, but it is disappointing.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

??? Oh no what Gaiman thing?

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 10 points 23 hours ago

Aww man. I hate being the bearer of bad news. Turns out Neil isn't quite the feminist he pretended to be. :(

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I knew he wasn't an angel but damn. Oh well.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, he wrote IT so idk if this would surprise anyone lol

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You telling me there's a chance that a writer, known for snorting enough cocaine to kill an elephant whilst writing a story where a group of boys run a train on a young girl, might have visited an island known for its drugs and sex trafficking young girls?

🤔

[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

I know it sounds like a stretch, but yes.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

It's nice of the people on the list to out themselves. At this rate we can just compile it ourselves.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

That part of IT might make a whole lot more sense all the sudden

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Wow, the replies on some of King's tweets are really telling....

No chance that chode isn't a trump supporter.

E: also, I didn't realize just how many of King's books involve child abuse... I knew about the obvious ones, but goddamn...

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's interesting. I read most of his books and I really can't recall anything in that regard. Between he's famous for being a horror author although he wrote a few non-fiction books. The human psyche and inner monologues of the character along with descriptions of villains and why they became the monsters they are, are recurring topics in his books. Might it be that this is the reason why they involve child abuse? Remember Dutroix? He was abused as child.

Anyways I can't really recall any scenes in his books where he delved more into that topic than appropriate.

Edit: I'm trying not to have idols or parasocial relations and it's been years since I read the last SK book. So my memory may be clouded a bit. Other than the scene from "The Jaunt" (which I haven't read), I haven't found anything after a quick search. If it turns out he's a pedo I won't defend him. But regarding from what I know about him as person from the biographical texts, and stuff he wrote on social media and how meticulously he deconstructed evil personalities in his books, I can't imagine this being anymore than a witchhunt.

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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 150 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (46 children)

Man, who would've thought that the guy who wrote a child orgy scene would turn out to be a pedophile? Edit: Didn't expect this to blow up and result in multiple bans... whoops.

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[–] jve@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Huh. I thought he publicly quit twitter and moved to ~~blue sky~~ threads?

https://xcancel.com/stephenking/status/1857165864346267891?s=46&t=PJVWm80PofrGWNJIfp3Bsw

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol. Guess who's on the list. 🤣🤣

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Tell me you're on that list without telling me you're on that list.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Wow, what a massive POS, and misusing "UFO" to boot. Yeah, everyone has seen something flying that they couldn't identify at some point or another. "UFO" does not automatically mean "extraterrestrial spacecraft."

[–] Gaylactus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Yeah that analogy is a pretty shitty one. There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical about UFOs/UAPs/Flying Saucers, or whatever you want to call them, even if I do not believe in batshit crazy conspiracies related to them. There are no reasons to believe that Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy can be real, that is just folklore.

Shocking that someone like him, would do such a ill-conceived analogy, even if anyone considers that in modern society, alien shit can be considered folklore, it is still very much within the realm of possibility.

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