Just saw a YouTube vid on this with the pilot apologising and the comments were blaming "DEI". i felt so tempted to ask them what part of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion they have a problem with
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YouTube comments are full of the most braindead people on Earth
There's a reason "don't read the comments" is a cliche
Are we having air traffic control fall out? Having a close call and then someone in your flight path again isn't great.
I mean, the ATC pipeline has already had issues for some decades when it comes to adding new recruits, and then DOGE came in and decided to offer buyouts and fire random employees on top of that. It's only a matter of time before you get more accidents like the one in DC.
Also you will start seeing folks leave from burnout and overwork sooner or later. Because that's the corpo way, fucked over your workforce and need to desperately high more people? Nope just work the current ones to the bone until the whole situation inevitably spirals into an irreparable mess.
The rail companies are gonna be making bank on parcel and letter delivery when the planes get permanently grounded because nobody wants to operate a business with no ATC. Also wonder how long till we start seeing state level run ATC?
Nah, it's always the prelude to privatisation. Someone will start up an ATC company and just take over the whole thing.
Doesn't mean the ATC won't still collapse, knowing how this shit tends to go they'd probably gut the existing systems so badly that most companies would pull out of the industry at least in the US. Boeing's fuck ups have driven down air travel relatively recently, it's entirely possible airports would lose insurance and be shut down by the cities if things got bad enough one or two jets smashing into a suburb would be enough.
Remember these folks are evil, greedy, and stupid. Not saying they can't capture objectives but holding them? That's another question.
Oh of course, privatisation of infrastructure always ends up worse and more expensive. Look at the US railroads.
At least with rails the absolute worst that can happen is a chemical spill, with planes and jets it could be as bad as a chemical airburst not even factoring in debris fields and other secondary shit. Frankly speaking I don't think there is anyways to have a minimum viable ATC with a corporation at least not a publicly traded one since they'd probably sell it to some publicly traded company that'll be bunk in five years.
I mean, you can have worse than chemical spills with trains. You can have entire towns blowing up. But yeah, you'll probably get even worse with ATC.
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And holy shit will it be worse.
No they won't. Remember, Regan set the present that he can fire them. And get new ones.
*fire them and then fail to find enough new ones for decades
It's that second part that's tricky.
wonder how long till we start seeing state level run ATC
They'll find a way to move it to the private sector before that.
I am not surprised to see they've already been trying. I am glad to see there is already organized opposition to the privatization of the FAA. https://nbaa.org/advocacy/legislative-and-regulatory-issues/faa-reauthorization-and-modernization/truth-atc-privatization/
It's cool bruh we'll just have xAI run the show using their Nazi bot who will prioritize flights based on how Jewish their passengers' last names sound
The tower involved was not a Federal Aviation Administration tower
Pardon? Who is operating a tower in North Dakota apart from the FAA? What is going on here? Why is there a tower in our United States that the FAA does not control?
“Long story short, it was not fun, I do apologize for it and thank you for understanding,”
lol, understatement
If I had to venture a guess I'd say it was probably the tower at nearby Minot AFB. Perhaps the commercial flight's approach took them over the bases' airspace or something.
I'm having trouble coming to grips with us having multiple air controllers. I thought everything was FAA and the military had to coordinate with them.
Good thing I don't fly an airplane, I suppose.
They use the same ATC systems and protocols, so handoffs between airspace should be the same whether it's a military or FAA tower.
So there's a whole other ATC controlled by the military? I honestly have no knowledge of this and am surprised.
Im just hearing about this too, but that doesnt surprise me at all. Government black ops in mind, you can't have civilian ATC personnel having classified information on the location of military aircraft nor their capabilities. Of course the military is going to have their own branch responsible for handling sesnitive info.
Nah, I always thought that military shit flew through FAA ATC and they just handed it off to the next. I don't know what to think now.
Kind of. It is more the same system, just some towers are operated by the military and some by the FAA. Each has their own airspace they are responsible for, but civilian aircraft can fly through airspace managed by military ATC and vice versa.
I'm not sure why it is like that nowadays. I guess in the beginning of ATC in the US it made sense for air bases to control the nearby airspace, and it probably just went from there, with maybe consolidation of towers as a cost-cutting measure along the way.
Caveat: it's been years since I've had to know any of this, so this might be outdated or misremembered.
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My guess is the Air Force. Iirc, the Army and Navy also operate their own ATC. I didn't know they did approach control for civilian aircraft, but that seems to be the case.
WTF? I thought all air traffic was FAA, guess I was wrong.
A similar incident happened earlier this year: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/28/us/delta-military-jet-close-call-dca/index.html
Kudos to the pilot for handling the situation admirably
HEGSETH!
Should it be the other way around?
In aircraft and boats, the more maneuverable craft has the responsibility to evade. Since this flight was going to a small airport in North Dakota, I'm guessing it's a small commuter plane that's much smaller than a B-52.
Pilot here: while that is generally true, for aviation the rule is that aircraft types that are in the same category have to give way to landing aircraft. Ie, a hot air balloon doesn't need to give way to a landing fixed wing but a fixed wing and fixed wing do need to give way to the landing aircraft.
The Delta pilot should be commended and the B52 should have been more aware of their situation.
In addition, ATC clearance generally means you have right of way especially on a landing approach.
Thank you for sharing.
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