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[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 105 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 199 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a book with chapters. Basically a regular ass book. When kids are real little, their books are like 15 pages long. Then in like 1st or 2nd grade, they move onto reading big kid books - aka "chapter books" that have enough pages to warrant chapters.

You never hear someone over the age of 7 or 8 mention reading "chapter books" because they're just know as books.

Except anon, who is dumb as fuck.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anon could be a kid. On the internet nobody knows you're a dog. Actually, a lot of content on 4chan looks like a giggling 8 year old posted it; especially the posts about poop.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Haha, penis!

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are regular books that don't have any chapters. Most of Terry Pratchett's Discworld Books are an example of this.

[–] adhocfungus@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago

That threw me when I started Guards! Guards!. I generally only have time to read at night and stop at the first chapter break after 11:00. For several nights in a row I was reading until midnight, giving up, then forgetting by the next time. Eventually I checked ahead and realized there weren't any, but a lot of his 'sections' are chapter sized, so it works out.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Really? I've read almost all of them twice and I wouldn't have been able to tell you that lol

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Terry does include breaks and beats in the stories that many other authors would adorn as a new chapter, but he never does. honestly imo that makes things almost filmic - for example where a switch in perspective usually prompts a new chapter and pushes an author to make it longer, Terry can just write a single page or even a few paragraphs to tease you a bit of what's going on elsewhere in the story, and then go back to the usual perspective but now with the added context & tension

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 93 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As you read these comments, remember that 56% of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or above; the rest read below that.

Please be gentle.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

remember that 56% of Americans read at a 6th-grade level or above; the rest read below that.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I recall reading somewhere that adult literacy was at like 98% in the US. Though that was like 25 years ago, and I suppose a 6th grade level still counts as “literate”? Or did we slide backwards?

If we have to talk about this in terms of “grade levels”, at what point is someone actually considered illiterate?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Measuring two different things. Your number: can read the words, mostly understand the words they read.

6th graders are generally literate. However, they're not necessarily picking up on nuance, or subtleties. And they will often not take into account how the sentence they just read fits into the overall context of the piece, and they likely won't question the narrator, assuming they're reliable.

You can imagine how half of adults being that bad at these things has colored political discourse.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

However, they’re not necessarily picking up on nuance, or subtleties. And they will often not take into account how the sentence they just read fits into the overall context of the piece

Which explains sooo many internet arguments.

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

There's different levels of literacy as well. If we take things like math literacy and functional literacy into account (things like doing your taxes or filling out government forms), something like 60% of the adult population is functionally illiterate (below a third grade level) in at least one area.

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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've known several men that were proud that they didn't read books. (Not that they read manga or anything, either.)

One of them, in particuular, was a grown up version of a stereotypical highschool bully. Willfully ignorant doesn't begin to describe him. I ever meet him in a dark alley, I'd fucking gut him.

Anyhow, this behaviour (pride in ignorance) among women is rare enough that I've never seen it. When I was doing online dating, I had great success asking what they're reading and using decent grammar and vocabulary.

Anti-intellectualism and willfull ignorance have a lot to do with the situation here in the US. I think it's mostly a male problem as well.

[–] virku@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Have you ever done any sort of IT support? I was internal IT in my first job and we had those people. It was mostly women 50+ years old who were proud that they know nothing about computers and would actively avoid listening when I tried to tell them how to do something trivial. Even when it was part of their jobs to do it. Then they would ask for help with the same stupid shit a few weeks later.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago

Fucking hell, so much this. They're so goddamn proud of their ignorance. This is why I enforce a very strict "we're mechanics, not chauffeurs" policy in my team. We've got no duty - either literal or moral - to make up for incompetence.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Highschool bullies are just a grown up version of middle school bullies. That shit was supposed to stop there.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And many of them never grow out of it and become President.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I read a lot of science fiction, and a younger friends at work frequently asked me for recommendations, and he liked talking about the books after reading them. At some point I found out that he exclusively consumes them as audiobooks, which is fine and I didn't think much about it. Some years down the line, when I was getting ready to retire, I had to pass on things to him. There was enough of it that, in addition to working elbow-to-elbow with him, I documented all the details in some long emails. When we meet, I'd say "The details are in the email," and focus on explaining the big picture.

It became obvious that he never read the emails. When I talked to him about it, he admitted that he really struggles with any long block of text. The guy is really smart, and he knows a lot about a lot of things, but he gets all his info from audio and video because struggles to consume text. There's clearly some kind of learning/mental issue going on there. It's going to make the job tough for him, but I hope he works it out.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

That is so crazy for me on a personal level because I'm the exact opposite. My brain has a really hard time processing auditory instructions.

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

Seriously, written guide > > > > > > > video guide

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm good with distilling information in whatever form, but I do get impatient with audio/video sometimes. I can read faster than people talk, so I want the audio to go faster. I've tried upping the playback speed, but we encode a lot of information in the pauses and cadence of speech, and the faster playback screws with the perception of that. Doing that is fine for technical information, but I don't care for it with a novel.

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[–] kieron115@startrek.website 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

If only everyone recorded personal logs like in Star Trek you could have just bequeathed him those! On a serious note though, good on them for trying to learn and expand their knowledge even with some sort of learning disability. I was diagnosed with ADHD like 30 years ago and I understand how troubling it can be trying to read things while constantly having to re-read sentences because you spaced out, or having to keep 5 browser tabs open because each new section brings up some other topic that I now need. I describe my learning/throught process as a spider web for good reason.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I actually prefer text for the same reason. No need to pause and rewind, then once again forget what I wanted to hear and go back for the 4th time.

I by far prefer text for things that matter.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If someone is trying to convey important information, I'd rather get an email, than a text. And, I'd rather get a text than a voice call.

Writing requires thought to form sentence that make sense. And, forces the person to slow down a bit and gives them time to think about what they are staying. Also, they at least have the opportunity to read before they send, to check if they left anything out. Finally, and this is especially important in business, we have a "paper trail" that can be referred back to.

It took me years to stop the owner of the business I worked for to stop giving me instructions verbally. He did end-runs around shop policy to get his own pet projects prioritized. Policies that he put into place. Why do business owners sabotage their own businesses?

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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do note: The US public education system has raised a significant number of younger millennials, genZ, and gen-α (especially in impoverished areas) to be functionally illiterate due to both profiteering and desire to destroy education. Effectively, they switched to literacy programs meant to help people with cognitive disabilities somewhat function in a world that has writing everywhere. This does not teach people how to read or comprehend. It also robs them of capacity to self-learn from texts.

So, there's a massive cohort of people whose parents and/or caregivers were not able to be spend time teaching this extremely important skill who are likely below 6th grade reading level.

[–] DahGangalang 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I heard schools have largely moved away from Phonics, which is wild to me. That's basically how reading was taught going back to at least medieval monks.

I hear they're using a "look and see" method or something? Word is that its how the Chinese teach their students to read....but they don't have an alphabet, so I don't know how that's supposed to work in English.

I have a relative who just retired from teaching and she says its a real mess in early education because of how badly this reading teaching method works, and its only worsening as students mature.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

There was a "program" that had been gaining popularity for years, put out by what are effectively scammers that denounced phonics for "sight reading" where kids were basically asked to guess what words were when next to pictures. This has largely been rejected and phonics reimplemented as it was a disaster

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The Chinese do have a Roman alphabet called pinyin for educational purposes. It's very consistent phonetically.

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[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck by chapter book I thought they're talking about Warhammer 40k novel about a specific Space Marine chapter and they're disappointed because they don't want to read 40k novels.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i thought "chapter book" meant a loooong novel being released in book sized chapters one by one like TV show episodes

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[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're in too deep brother!

[–] unprovenbreeze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago

I had to search it to understand the post. Well, that's a weird name to describe a normal book for children.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The problem with comic books is that they're all about this big flashy pictures and they never have any words in them. Oh well, anyway, off to read some more Chainsaw Man and One Punch...

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He looks absolutely enthralled by the wall of text lol.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I can't read without pictures!

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

Ancient Egyptians be like:

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[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No one’s talking about anon’s weird assumption that authors go from idea directly to manga, and not that most authors start by writing a novel to attract a sponsor.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 11 points 1 week ago

Shhhh, that would require actual understanding of the culture and not just laziness.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Chapter books belong in the Chapter House (Dune)

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago

If there's no pictures children won't read them.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Dojan@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago

You can still enjoy reading if you have aphantasia. I can't picture shit, but verbose books tend to be my favourites.

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