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Immigration agents told a teenage US citizen: ‘You’ve got no rights.’ He secretly recorded his brutal arrest (www.theguardian.com)
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Video from Kenny Laynez-Ambrosio, 18, puts fresh scrutiny on the harsh tactics used to reach the Trump administration’s ambitious enforcement targets

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 73 points 1 day ago

Later in the footage, the officers move on to general celebration – “Goddamn! Woo! Nice!” – and talk of the potential bonus they’ll be getting: “Just remember, you can smell that [inaudible] $30,000 bonus.”

If my tax dollars are paying out huge bonuses to thugs, I'm pretty mad about it. Let's assign those bonuses to teachers. Oh, wait. Trump loves the poorly educated (he's said so in a direct quote). They're more easily manipulated by blatant lies. Can't have a population that can think for themselves. Then how would we whip up fear of the "other" and lay all the blame for billionaire capitalists at their door?

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 183 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's not illegal for law enforcement to lie to you even if they know it's a lie. Isn't this a great system? Happy Friday!

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago

Which is a huge reason not to talk to law enforcement. They can lie but you can't.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is so stupid IMO, police is an authority, and you should be able to trust them.
But they are allowed to set traps for you, and then they act surprised when people don't trust them. 🙄

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's where it all started to break down. You've all been asking for this shit to happen by not holding your leadership accountable, who in turn are supposed to hold those who enforce their laws accountable. You don't ha e either of those things in the USA and now you've got this. It's been waiting on the wings for decades, but the erosion of democracy started long long ago.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree, but you make false assumptions about my nationality, honey traps and baiting people into criminal acts are not legal police methods in my country, and police is way more trusted here than in USA.
Although the trust has declined for the past half century, incidentally also a period where police powers have been increased, and police budgets have decreased.
In the 70's the view of police was overwhelmingly positive here, now it's more like average.

USA however is a dystopia of legal hypocrisy and systemic injustice, and police overreaction due to incompetence.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

bottom line: never trust any authority. there may be authorities that help you resist worse authorities, but that doesn't make them good, that makes them a temporary expedient on the path to freedom. sideeye them the entire time you're working with them

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 4 hours ago

Any authority that is legitimately good and has your interests at heart doesn't need you to give it trust. It will earn your respect and support, and trust should be unnecessary because transparency would make the "...but verify" part effortless.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I was a kid in the 60s, I remember hearing calls to "Question Authority," and I took it to heart, and it became a part of my personality. It's natural for me to be skeptical of anything I hear from any authority.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

✨ G O O D ✨

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My doctor is an authority. Can I trust her?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago

trust her expertise, but not her authority. authority is power over another person and there is a history of doctors abusing their power over patients (in particular against LGBTQIA+ and indigenous people)

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But... It appears they did not read him his Miranda rights, which is a constitutional requirement and they absolutely apply if he's a citizen. From the sound of it, they're in clear violation of that.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

People always get confused by this.

The ‘Miranda rights’ are actually called the ‘Miranda warning’. Their purpose is to prevent people from self-incrimination: you have the right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer before answering questions. It also warns that anything you DO say can be used against you.

Now, the thing that people get wrong is: these warnings only apply when an officer starts asking you questions related to a potential crime. You still are legally required to cooperate and to give your name and personal details regardless.

So, an officer can legally arrest you without reading the Miranda warning. But if say, a detective will question you later, they still need to give you those warnings. Basically, the only reason most cops read them while arresting is so it’s covered in case they or anyone down the line DOES ask questions.

Not having your ‘Miranda rights’ read is not a get out of jail free card. At best, it could render some evidence inadmissible in court.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Thanks, that was a great explanation!

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

A constitutional requirement for what? Answer that and you'll understand why it doesn't matter if they're in "clear violation."

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

And speaking of Friday, it's time for the weekly reminder! (CW: swearing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6tfEZI54Jg

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Seems like a good place to remind everybody in the US to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

A truly great video and I second that ALL USAmericans should watch.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More reason to identify these agents cause ya know $30,000 must be somewhere.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You know the funniest part about all this? They are betting on a financial promise made by Donald Trump. The man has a long established reputation for not paying his debts.

They are being awful people, in public, placing themselves in great danger if they are ever identified, for money they likely will never get.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'd request for payment upfront before arriving at the detention center.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Yea I’m sure the regime would tolerate that.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Knowing what border crossings and check points are like; 100% believe the kid.

E: I once had a buddy tell me they had him in a cold af room to get a confession for cocaine trafficking. They had some pink liquid that proved it was him. In a moment of clarity between imprisonment threats he realized if they could prove it they'd just cuff him and not need a confession. Bro had some old battery in his trunk that had some corrosion. We think they found some of that and perhaps that's what they tested to get the pink liquid. We're both white too, so for sure getting the polite treatment.

[–] peregrin5@piefed.social 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they're just sadistic regardless of if they want to get a confession from you or not. i was a teenage runaway from an abusive family home and they stripped me to my boxers and stuck me in a freezing cell the entire day after arresting me for being a "vagrant" before returning me to my abusers. fuck the police and all such "officers".

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago

Laynez-Ambrosio was charged with obstruction without violence and sentenced to 10 hours of community service and a four-hour anger management course.

Wtf

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Americans will see this and think "but we can't escalate!"

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Its time for s**t to hit the fan, we need a breaking point, the whole world is DONE and fed up with trump o well americans still accept it so yeah

[–] notsure@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

...there are rules...rules...

[–] Kurious84@lemmings.world 9 points 1 day ago

Man when you need the secret police apparently theres plenty of Americans lining up for the job.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The SA and NKVD are proud of AmeriKa, WTF, the obese POS, with the shit eating grin, needs some serious PT. I hope Laynez finds a damn good lawyer.