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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Exactly like all software developers who thought they were going to make games or some world changing application at least in their own time, and then five years later they are just logging out for the day and playing games or streaming crap all evening like everyone else.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given how many great open source projects there are, some developers actually do that. Just not me and you bro.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot of FOSS is maintained by people who are getting paid one way or another to maintain it.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

And a lot of FOSS isn't.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tried making games a while back and I've no idea how people do it. It was rough trying to enjoy your own game after you've spent 1000 hours play testing every aspect of it. Half way though the game Id stop thinking my own game was fun. I don't think I can ever be a game dev.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Playtesting? What’s that? Seems like an old practice that only slowed down release schedules

[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Stop wasting time, the shareholders want this out now, they definitely know better than you when the time is right

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you do something you love as a career, you'll ~~never work a day in your life~~ have one less thing that you love.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"When your vacation becomes your vocation, you will never have a vacation again."

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm a homebody, and 2020 and the WFH stuff did exactly this to me.

[–] SkinnyTimmy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago
[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same applies to basically anything.

Driving is awesome, but when you are driving because you are commuting, or you have to drive your kids to kindergarten/school it becomes a chore and you no longer enjoy it.

I love programming. But when I have to do it for someone else to earn a living, and do it in a specific manner that they dictate, it feels like a chore and I no longer enjoy it.

Having a workplace that is fun and enjoyable isn't about doing the thing you love. It's about a lot of other things, such as the people you work with, the company culture, how much freedom and choice you are granted.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

do it in a specific manner that they dictate

That's the root of the whole thing.

Obviously, if someone is going to pay you to do something for them, they're going to want you to do it their way, in the manner of their choosing. That's kinda the point.

The conclusion, of course, is that what you are really enjoying is the freedom to do what you want...and what you want just happens to be this given activity. Once you're doing it for pay, you're trading that freedom for money (capitalism in a nutshell, trading freedom for money). All the trappings of the specific nature of that trade are just window dressing and detail.

This applies to literally anything anyone does as a profession, all throughout history, even/especially "the oldest profession".

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yep, it's like playing a game that you like while having someone watch over you saying, "no don't do that, no that isn't good enough, you are taking too long, redo it all by this deadline", and the ever present threat their assessment of your playing will have on your ability to live your daily life.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty much.

In the actual nature of my work, I love it. I'm a CAD drafter and 3D modeler. I got started on this path as a little kid when I loved to draw and design Star Wars ships, especially floorplans and schematics of them.

If I could do that all day, it'd be heaven. Instead it's always far less interesting things, on tight deadlines, with shitty software, and it has to be done in the least efficient ways possible, and I'm given vague and conflicting instructions on what is even wanted.

But it pays better than the Star Wars ships, and I like having food and a car and beer.

[–] notaviking@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

A guy I work with now flies drones commercially now, he says he cannot wait to stop flying drones for the rest of his life

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 years ago

I love my job when people don't make it suck

[–] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Life in a nutshell. Never make your hobby your job, because you're going to hate it.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've tried it too many times..

Music? Check. Film? Check. Computer programming? Check

Finding a new job now? Umm...

My favourite thing about computer programming was the commute. I think I'm gonna try applying to the place that runs the trains now.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I tend to agree with this a ton, yet it's left me asking over and over, "What the fuck do I do for work that won't steal my time and leave me miserable?"

I don't know if there's any answer for me personally on this, as I think I just abhor the entire modern arrangement of work that wants your whole life instead of only a small portion of your time just to get by.

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Musicians can relate to this.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Dealing with people ruined music for me worst part was people's egos no one takes constructive criticism well anymore. Man I just want this shit to sound good so I can get a check for 25.00 once a month don't be a dick because you're obviously off key 😢😭

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

You can do anything mindfully or mindlessly. If your paycheck comes in contact with your personal development of a skill, and your freedom to explore its possibilities and your capabilities within that mindset, then yes I understand why doing your passion as a job might be tougher to wrestle with. But I think we must do this. Because if the alternative is to mindlessly do something we don't love, and spend our lives wishing we had more time to interact with what we do love, then we are trading even more freedom away than if we had made our passion into our work. It is your responsibility to maintain a mindful, aware, thoughtful relationship with your own skills. Do your passion for yourself, more than for your boss. Save your energy at work for your own time.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago