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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 84 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Segregation of labor really started just recently. Go back 10000 years and you’ll find a more even split of roles. 10000 years is fairly evolutionarily negligible- we’re largely the same, aside from some immunity quirks, homeostasis tweaks, gamete peculiarity, and cultural differences.

Pluck a baby from way back and raise it today and you’ll just be raising a pretty average immunocompromised baby.

All of that to say, “women should be in the kitchen for their own good” is unsupported by an even slightly broadened perspective. I’m pretty sure Vikings aren’t coming to rape and plunder your 200 person town, bud. Hiding your wife away is just abusive.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSRs policies pushing more women into these careers.

People don't realise that these norms they hold as dogma are so short-lived and subject to change that opposition only shows them unable to comprehend history past their lived experience.

It's ashame they have to drag us down with them.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago

While true, there is other issues with gender inequality in Eastern Europe like relatively higher domestic violence towards women and legislature to enable it in countries like Russia.

Inequality is a complex issue and needs to be looked at holistically. I have a feeling that often there is a focus on work and "career" although later seems to be mostly measured in some women who made it to C-levels. In that sense it remains an issue of women being supposed to "function" in a narrow line, rather than the system as a whole being questioned.

More women working full time is sold as a success of emancipation, despite it meaning more work overall for women who have children as some care work is difficult to delegate. At the same time it is a massive loss, that a lot of "life goals" like owning your own home require two full time income or just aren't reachable any more despite higher education levels.

When it comes to single parents, poverty becomes a strong problem and it helps enable abusive relationships as people are economically compelled to stay with an abusive partner. This issue moved on from the stay at home wives to women working full time too.

More income and less working hours are needed generally, and should help emancipation of women even more. In the eyes of capitalists that would be a grave "malfunction".

[–] Norodix@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm from eastern europe. This is bullshit.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shit dawg all you had to say is citation needed.

Thornton, A., 2019. Gender equality in STEM is possible

[–] Norodix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Case in point, men and women are almost 50/50 in STEM careers around Eastern Europe due to the USSR

around eastern europe -> contries in eastern europe that dont support this claim dont count obviously

due to ussr -> ussr not mentioned in citation

Anyway, this is a way too broad statistic that clumps together tons of fields which are actually pretty split. Basically statistics gerrymandering.

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

During the golden age of the "American dream" where a man had a car, a house, and a family, didn't the housewives end up relying on all sorts of pills and shit to not go crazy stuck in the house all day?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Pills, shopping, and racism. Historically, people have always numbed their minds to cope with the rapidly changing reality we live in, though largely with alcohol and funny plants.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I must admit a cold beer and some funny plants do make me feel a little less distressed about the world being on fire.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 41 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think this dude might be confusing women with robots.

And maybe it's a good thing he's doing it...

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[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Women need the patriarchy because, without the patriarchy, there wouldn't be a patriarchy"

Tautology Club meets in the Tautology Club room

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why is this man terrified of women? He talks about them like they’re Tasmanian devils

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You always fear what you don't know

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[–] DivineDev@piefed.social 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

This is in contrast to men, who will bring about a utopia without hunger, homelessness, war and crime. Wait.

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[–] jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh damn, thats why I always destroy one to two buildings or one piece of critical infrastructure on my way home!

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's such a baller statement though. Guy is basically saying women will rule the world if not for the chains of the patriarchy to restrain them.

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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

they malfunction and destroy civilizations

...much like politicians these days!

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[–] bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not a woman but I want to partake in this event

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We can get you some low dose estrogen and they/them pronouns.

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[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This man, and all men (yes, all) who hold this belief are actually weak men who are jealous and threatened by women. They need therapy to address the root cause of their toxic masculinity, not arbitrary power over half the population.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also the culture that causes toxic masculinity in first place needs to change, any amount of therapy alone won't fix the situation. Treating it only as a personal problem is like treating symptoms of a plague but leaving it rampant. But how to nuke the idiocy on a cultural level..? Things seem to have even taken a turn for the worse lately...

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Cut it off at the source: childhood religious indoctrination.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Malfunction" made me feel slightly sick. There's no shortage of misogynist rhetoric that paints women as animals, but this guy takes it a step further into reasoning about them like they're machines.

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[–] Angelusz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Being a woman is not a requirement to want to destroy much of current civilization.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Restore the patriarchy?

I wasn't aware we drifted.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

In the USA women didn't have the right to vote until 1920, it was legal to discriminate against them in employment until 1964, that's what that guy wants us to return to.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How do you even get such shit in your brain?

And more importantly... I get that younger this shit in your head, but that it actually leaves your mouth... WTF?

This guy should go in a ring with some of the women I know and after a round of ass whooping, I wonder how his opinions would be

[–] BeefandSquints@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

These are the type of people who have never met or spent time around women. They create a nemesis to avoid the fact that they're the actual problem with their life.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bleep bloop

  • Women

Am I right???

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the patriarchy and toxic masculinity is precisely why young men are having a loneliness epidemic and some are even doing mass murders, no thanks, dipshit.

Egalitarianism is the future.

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[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The mental image in my head is asking a lady the time and she turns and looks at you, opens her mouth to speak and black smoke starts billowing out and she starts shooting sparks at you.

It's easy to think that if half your population were eldritch horrors civilization would have a bit of trouble.

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[–] Toribor@corndog.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Civilization isn't being very civilized these days so I'm cool with this.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm gonna guess that this dude is single.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It's a very sad fact that many men do not like women, but are attracted to them anyway.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If I found the right person it seems he is married

My wife and I have been married for 22 years. We have three children and have been through all the ups and downs of married life while maintaining a satisfying emotional and sexual connection. I'm not just a talker promoting theory; I practice what I preach.

https://www.noahrevoy.com/about

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (8 children)

“I practice what I preach” read: “I found and am exploiting a vulnerable woman for my emotional and sexual needs.”

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[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Me is with Vee

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea, sounds like a good plan.

Can we men please join in? I feel dysfunctional enough for the purpose as is

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ya know, after thousands of years of civilizations really being quite shit and watching people throwing armies at each other because of childish grudges and the like, largely while under a heavily patriarchal rule…my guy what the fuck are you talking about?

As a dude, and I do know that this is not a new take, we do not have a great track record of acting rationally while leading literally anything.

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

Someone misses their mommy.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you seen this rapist?

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Joke's on you, you're not getting a home, anyway.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We should just let AI take over.

Just let it happen.

I'm not saying it'll be a good thing but it won't be this...

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