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[–] CubitOom 110 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I will just as soon my Jack2Head finishes downloading the latest update!

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm reading 'The Circle' by Dave Eggers right now, and he totally foresaw all knowing corporative control back in the 2010s.

It is a tome at 500 pages, but a great read, so far.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Not gonna shit on Eggers or anything, but I don't think that concept was new in the 2010s.

Snow Crash is one that comes to mind right away, but I haven't read The Circle, so maybe I'm wrong about what you're referring to. I think William Gibson probably wrote about similar themes at some point as well.

If you haven't read Snow Crash, btw, you should. It's fucking awesome

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Definitely loved Snow Crash. Similar message that everything will be shared/recorded. In The Circle it's a bit more chilling, for me at least, because every person is a 'Gargoyle' that HAS to record and share every thought and emotion and event, and it's all happening in a somewhat boring cyber-corpo near future dystopia, whereas SC was a madcap over the top cyberpunk playground.

Where I'm at in The Circle, employees of the big tech company are expected to share pics of everything they do and comment on everything their coworkers do. Fill out a minimum of 500 survey questions a day on top of their daily work quota. Everyone's work performance is shared for Friendly Competition.

I'd go on, but there'd be spoilers.

So, like you said, definitely not an original idea, just a slightly more current and boringly believable dystopia than rad pizza delivering samurais and viral languages developing on pirated barges floating in trash gyres in the Pacific.

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[–] AbNormalHumanBeing@piefed.world 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

BonziBuddy was a herald of the apocalypse.

[–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Lol my ex made that YouTube video. Hilarious to see it here

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[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 19 points 1 month ago

I love u 😳

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

One of my favorites of theirs, easily.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Nobody thinks Clippy was good, and that's the point. In the original video Louis Rossmann does talk about Microsoft's shenanigans with IE at the time.

The point is that Clippy was widely considered to be bad, and everyone considered Microsoft to be bad at the time, but everything involving technology has become so much worse since. Microsoft would be considered the most ethical tech company in the world if they still operated the way they did in the 90s. It's not the Microsoft was good in the 90s (far from it!) it's that Microsoft and all of the other tech companies have gotten so much worse since then.

The clippy thing is kinda genius really. We've been boiling the frog on a lot of things and we don't really think about how much worse things are now than they used to be. People in positions of power now probably did encounter Clippy when they were younger. Reminding them about how annoying Clippy was may make them realize how much more annoying they're being when making decisions about technology.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 11 points 1 month ago

I hate clippy. As a millennial who did use the version of MS office (briefly anyway) that had clippy I did get a bit of nostalgia and I installed a VM of windows 95 and installed the version of office with clippy in it.

Then... I instantly remembered WHY I hated him. The reason is that when he pops up to offer you useless advice, he fully takes control and interrupts your work and you have to dismiss him to continue what you were doing. He does it often, too.

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Isn't it about clippy and not microsoft

[–] NaibofTabr 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, the people who are somehow getting the message that Louis Rossmann was praising Microsoft either didn't watch the video or generally struggle with nuance, or both.

If you told Clippy that you were having a bad day, he wasn't going to use that information to try and figure out which advertiser to sell you to, nor was he trying to steal your personal data or get you to purchase other Microsoft products. He had no ulterior motives.

Talking about what Microsoft as a company might or might not have done or wanted to do in '97 is irrelevant.

The point is that Clippy was a better assistant product because it did not do the things that the current generation of assistant software products do.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

It's not irrelevant. Using a corporate mascot as a symbol against another corporate mascot/product isn't going to spread the message Louis intended. You argue the people complaining about it aren't getting his point, but do you really think it will/has survived the word-of-mouth spreading it? The game of telephone that viral trends like this follow is lightning fast and warps messages in extreme ways. And it's not much of a stretch to assume that, if MS churned out a new Clippy chatbot, people would rally around it to spite the others since they have no understanding of why they were doing it in the first place.

*Also, people already mischaracterize the sincerity of early tech giants. I've certainly seen many people lament "the good Internet" of the mid 2000s, as if the very issues we have today weren't percolating back then. None of those companies were ever good or harmless, the idea that them or their products are "different" now is naive, and relying on that naivety to push for change is a mistake.

[–] DegenerateSupreme@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

My take: if Rossman came out swinging as an anti-corporate revolutionary, his ideas wouldn’t have wide appeal right now, since many people still think the problem is just “bad” mega-corporations. So instead, he’s arguing for less-shitty tech corporations as a first step (symbolized by Clippy, of a less-intrusive software age), rather than “destroy all tech corpos now.” No, Microsoft wasn’t good then, but they were less awful.

If his video were starkly anti-capitalist, it would not have reached 2.5 million people, and I’d say getting that many people to start thinking about rejecting invasive software is a great step in the right direction, as opposed to ideological purism that would only resonate with those who already agree. The need for these baby steps is frustrating for those who already see the big picture, but a few chats with my coworkers quickly reveal how shockingly little some people have actually thought about the sins of big tech.

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[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

It's also not explicitly not about them either. Kinda the problem with symbols is that they're marred by association. This movement is ultimately symbolic and the Clippy people (Microsoft) are at the heart of everything this symbolic gesture goes against.

It would be like me trying to make a symbol of how cars are bad by simply showing an old one.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No! If we just change our avatars to Clippy the tech giants will feel really bad and stop harvesting our data and locking us out of our products! Then we'll be able to keep forking our money over to those same companies but it'll be okay 'cause they'll be nice now!

[–] thehermit@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Clippy, how much is my information worth to you?

[–] moon@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 month ago

This communication serves as a formal notice regarding your unauthorized use of the likeness of Microsoft Clippy, a trademarked character owned by Microsoft Corporation. Your actions constitute a clear violation of our intellectual property rights.

The use of Clippy’s likeness in your project not only infringes upon our trademarks but also creates significant consumer confusion regarding the origin and sponsorship of your work. Such misrepresentation poses a direct threat to the integrity and reputation of the Clippy brand.

Please be advised that if you do not immediately cease and desist from this unauthorized use, we will take all necessary legal actions to protect our rights, including but not limited to the potential shutdown of your servers to prevent further infringement.

You are required to remove all references to Microsoft Clippy from your project and provide written confirmation of compliance by [specific date, e.g., 14 days from today]. Failure to comply will compel us to pursue legal remedies without further notice.

We expect your immediate attention to this serious matter.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lol... I saw that headline ("Everyone should change their avatar to clippy. Seriously," or something like that), and saw that it linked to a video, and I was just like 'nah'.

[–] Lemmynster19@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It comes from Louis Rossmann. He said this, so that we (i changed my profile pic as well) know, that we are not alone, and see how many of us there are. Obviously if we dont do anything else, this clippy thing wont do anything.

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[–] callyral@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago

the tech giants will feel really bad and stop harvesting our data

That's not what changing your profile picture is meant to do, nobody (as far as I'm aware) is claiming that's the goal. The goal is to get people wondering why others have a Clippy profile picture, then they might search it up and learn about consumer rights and enshittification.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I think if Clippy had teeth back in 1997, he might have been remembered a little differently.

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Somebody in the MS marketing department: 'Everyone hates clippy. What can we do about this?'

'Paste a couple gifs of a CGI dog on top of it?'

'Genius! Let's go to our two week lunch!'

[–] eecobb@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

30 years later:
'Everyone hates us. What can we do about this?’

'Make it fashionable for people born in 2003 to pretend to be nostalgic for Clippy?'

[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How long until there is a Clippy Fortnite skin?

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

It was kinda hilarious that when you disabled the Windows XP file search dog there was actually an animation of him sadly walking away.

[–] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 19 points 1 month ago (11 children)

It's a symbol, it's easily recognizable for it's simplicity and only aim to help.

It helps us feel less alone and to find the resolve to fight togheter.

Y'all just love to feel miserable don't you?

[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't even use computers.

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[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago

The teeth are terrifying lol

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago

Embrace, extend, and extinguish

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

Clippy, I pirated your software in '97 and I'd do it again if there wasn't just hot garbage to pirate.

[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago

you have been putting out gold the past few days, love that clippy has teeth but hes talking out of his eyes

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I know that it is common to turn a symbol initially built against you into one which now benefits you, but I don't think that's whats going to happen with Clippy primarily because of message here isn't "Clippy wants us to move into a future where we own our tech/social infrastructure" but instead "man, im really nostalgic for the way corporations used to treat us"

I have no problem using a symbol developed my Microsoft to spread anti-big tech messaging. The problem is that to a lot of people, the messaging doesn't feel ant-big tech or anti-capitalist so much as it is just nostalgic. Microsoft was never a nice company. Even in the 1990s they were exercising their E.E.E (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish) strategy to beat federated and decentralized platforms and technologies. The goal of these companies (and you can see it now in their attitudes towards AI) is to own as much social infrastructure as they can. From where you get your news to where you get your friends. The only way to work against this is to work against big tech. There is no other way.

Part of me wonders if the message behind the current Clippy symbol can be bent into something more forward facing, but I also feel that that would be hard/would feel artificial because of the fact that Clippy is just now so connected to nostalgia.

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[–] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

'Looks like you could use some help investing in crypto! Let me help, but you should have a solid investment in a couple tech stocks first...'

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

it looks like you're trying to invoke nostalgia for older days, do you want help with that?

A text bubble.
Clippy.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They certainly knew how to collect it back then. They just didn't yet have anyone willing to buy it from them.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it's 97, there's a good chance the computer doesn't even have an internet connection.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And even if it did, it wasn't always connected when running.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

"Clippy sucked and everyone hated it but tech giants currently do mych more and nobody complains."

[–] jawa21@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

I didn't think I'd get a chance to use this again.

[–] moon@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So... where can we buy this in sticker form?

[–] pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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