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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 146 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As a Norwegian of some age, this entire case was one of the most jarring news stories I've encountered.

Imagine following the news in the early 2000s. Our crown prince found love among the (extremely) common people, and got married to a woman who had a small child. Royalist tightbutts are pissing themselves at the breach of tradition but the rest of the country is charmed by the heartwarming love affair.

News plastered for months and months of of a couple in love, and Marius the cuutest tiny blonde litte boy barely out of diapers and being adorable everywhere. And it fades out.

20-something years pass, and news are going on about something "Marius Høiby..."

Omg! I remember him! He was the cutes- WHAT THE FUCK

[–] virku@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I hate that our media has started dishing out any and all details including heresay for months when some court case or investigation of notoriety is going on. If it is a missing billionaires wife, a raping gynocologist, resurfacing of the same 30 year old murdered kids every 3 years or whatnot it is at the top of the newspapers for months. I don't want to read about that shit.

I don't want assholes to get famous after doing illegal shenanigans. I would much rather read news about a farmer saving his horse. Or even shaving his horse which auto correct wanted me to type for that matter.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lena@gregtech.eu 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Why people so whinney?

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In Norway we call him Temu-Joffrey.

[–] xav@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago
[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That was my exact first impression

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Frankly, I wish we just abolished the damn monarchy already. I hate that we still have kings and queens in a democratic country even if they are just ceremonial. They don't deserve all this media attention just because they got a lucky birth

Treat all of them as one would any other citizen and be done with it. Unfortunately, the monarchy still faces popular support towards existing, though I hope it changes sooner or later

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The birth doesn't even have any relevance to be part of a royal family. I might remember this wrong, but last time I was in Stockholm I went to the armoury museum or whatever its called. There was a small tidbit almost hidden in some big paragraph about a Swedish royal who had no kids and therefore no heir. He went ahead and just adopted a random French general (I think) who then by extension became a real royal person.

I actually just looked it up now, it was a Swedish king who had no children, adopted this French guy, who then became Swedish king himself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XIV_John

So from then on the Swedish royal family wasn't technically Swedish anymore? I didn't check who he married and had kids with though.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

The Swedish royal family ain't Swedish. The British royal family ain't British. Everyone else is British, because Queen Victoria had two hundred kids, and half of them died of a papercut.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago

They don’t deserve all this media attention just because they got a lucky birth

While I agree with you in principle, this guy in particular didn't have a lucky birth. His parents were not aristocrats, his father is a felon and didn't stick around, his mother raised him alone at first. His grandparents on the mothers side are divorced and his grandpa is also a felon.

However when he was four and a half his mother married into the royal house. So he would have had a privileged upbringing from then on. So he's still super fucked up, to piss it into the wind with violent crime.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Aren’t they financially compensated by the tax payers for being in the monarchy?

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hear America's rape-friendly "aristocracy" is looking for more recruits

[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Bitch please. Eurotrash royalty invented getting away with rape.🤣

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 20 points 1 month ago

this is shitty but it seems like a moment to see how Norway's corrective model for justice will work in an extreme case. I hope Norway can follow through with what they've been trying to do here

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn’t know Malfoy was royalty.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Malfoy family is coded as aristocratic one tbf.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Resting rape face

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Høiby’s status as part of the royal family, he added, would “not mean that he is treated more leniently or strictly than if similar acts were committed by others”.

We'll see about that.

[–] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno man

Hoiby does not have a royal title and is outside the line of royal succession. The Norwegian royal court said: “It is for the courts to consider this matter and reach a decision. We have no further comment.”

It sounds like they hate the brat too lol.

[–] captain_zavec@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

At least from the folks I've talked to he is not well-liked

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 month ago

Watch him discover a Jewish grandmother and invoke the right to return, and poof safe!

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

At least in Norway they treat him like anyone else. Time for the US and UK to do the same. Money, fame and titles shouldn't be a get-out-of-jail (or any consequences) free card.

Prince Andrew has been stripped of his titles, been banished from the royal family. That's not a consequence, he needs to be in prison. Trump has been found guilty for just a few of his crimes, yet he's still able to become president. He needs to rot in prison for the rest of his life too. Instead he's free to do loads more crimes without consequences.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Our client denies all charges of sexual abuse, as well as the majority of the charges regarding violence. He will present a detailed account of his version of events before the court."

"Look. Now. Listen, let me explain. I only violently abused them a little bit. We've all done that. Right? It was just a tiny bit of violence!!"

[–] viking 9 points 1 month ago

He already publicly apologized for hitting his ex while high on coke, so he can't deny everything.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago

Why is it always the ones you most expect?

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Høiby is alleged to have raped four women between 2018 and November 2024. All the alleged assaults allegedly took place after consensual intercourse while the women were sleeping.

I hope this goes better than Assange's trial went.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Please read and and try to understand my point, I know that what follows may be controversial. I 110% agree that no one should be forced into acts which it doesn't desire, and that the guy is a proven douche, but is it rape if it was in the frame of consensual sex? I love getting woken up by sexy stuff.

Does getting in bed for a night of sex have to have a written out menu, script or 15 page contract? I can clearly discern between a soft, coy or giggly no, and a hard no, and don't think I could force a woman to have sex with me (I find the concept so abhorrent I'd probably go limp). I'm the type that ensures "she's had her fill (pun intended?) before I finish the meal"

I think that if someone has gotten in bed with you for sex, and stays, it could be safe to assume they are open to more. Maybe he didn't acknowledge a serious "No!" I don't know.

Also, it may be good to keep in mind what one of the old time heroic feminists, Greer, from the 60s-70s said that "often rape isn't, it's bad sex".

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

What the fuck

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, you should very much talk about whether stuff like this is okay to do to someone else before you do it. You can't consent when you sleep, so you must get full consent beforehand.

And yes, you should typically ask whether doing something is okay before you do it, in general. Communication is good, it won't hurt anyone.

And no, it isn't safe to just assume anything. Ask! That's really all there is to it. Ask and accept a "no". Ideally you also check in a few times underway. It leads to better sex.

My mindset comes from the kink community, where generally most things are permissable, but so long as consent stays in front and centre. Unless you have agreed beforehand to treat it otherwise, stuff like a "giggly no" is a no. Well, specifically you'd have safe words such as "red", but I assume that's not the case here.

In short though, don't just assume anything of the other person, ask them, and allow them to talk.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

stuff like a "giggly no" is a no.

Thank you for explicitly bringing this up.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

If two people are not actually explicitly communicating, then both of them are making assumptions. I've slept over at other people's places because I've stayed late and the last bus/train has already left, because I've suddenly felt really tired and didn't want to bother/didn't feel safe to drive, because it was closer to work the next day, and, yes, because we fell asleep after sex. And absolutely none of that was consent for someone to start having sex with me while I was sleeping. Which is why communicating with your partners is important.

Just because you like being woken up by sexy times doesn't mean everyone enjoys it. As an example, someone who has been previously been raped or attempted raped might not appreciate it - which happens to be one out of every four woman in the United States.

And the 12% of all women in the US who were raped by an "intimate partner" will likely particularly not appreciate it.

It's also likely that some of the 81% of US women who have suffered sexual harassment might have some problem with it. So, y'know, maybe you should start explicitly asking before having sex with someone, even if you did have sex earlier that night.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

2025.... &...... Royal Family

If you have one in this day and age your society is fucked up.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When I lived in Poland all my presidents were an embarrassment. Extremely partisan, didn't know protocol, didn't speak any foreign languages. One scandal after another. The latest one is a ex football hooligan, cheater and simpleton.

When I got to Spain the king was most capable of meeting foreign leaders, very professional, speaks perfect English and French (and supposedly Greek, German, Portuguese, and Catalan), knows protocol and doesn't get involved in politics. The next in line is preparing her whole life to do the same.

Polish president and Spanish king server pretty much the same function in the government. The office of Polish president costs taxpayers about 10x more money than Spanish Royal family.

So yes, having royals in 2025 is sounds idiotic but it's actually quite practical.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

That "royal family" reads like the family tree on Oz.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Always the ones you most expect...

Just me or does he look like the love child of Matt Damon and Dominique Pinon from City of Lost Children?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't do Dominique Pinon like that

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Have you seen Delicatessen? No reference to your previous comment I’m just curious

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is that the one where they flood the apartment just for the sake of one shot?

By which I mean yes. I watched everything I could find easily of his, because I like his acting

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Of course. It is a classic.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If Norwegian royalty has this problem, I doubt civilians also behave. Doctors also seem to be protected from consequences, so I dodged gangs.

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