My Windows is more like "I am scheduling the restart. Pray I don't schedule it any sooner."
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Mine will do the restart and boot into Linux.
Windows Updates are always like that. Halfway through it's got to restart, bootloader picks Linux, Windows doesn't get to finish the other half of its update til the next time it's chosen.
Is Linux higher in your boot priority?
Linux is higher in any priority.
Always has been.
When I had a dualboot, that's how I ordered it.
You can configure Grub to boot into whichever entry you last selected. Makes rebooting much more convenient
I like how you censored systemd
People need to learn that it's ok to say systemd on the Internet and stop self censoring
Let's not get carried away. Fuck and shit are ok, but I draw the line at s*****d
~~init.d~~ straight to jail
Yes, let's keep this community family friendly. I could do without such obscenities.
system deez nuts
Windows just randomly installing updates only when I'm working on something with a customer.
one of the reasons I'm moving away. pisses me off so much at work, I don't even want it at home
Managed to wreck my NVMe drive with an unsafe shutdown on linux the other week, gave it a few hours for the self check, booted back into the distro and has been running fine ever since.
Pretty sure windows would've just set the computer on fire at this point.
Linux is so strong I turn it off from the power button. Saving 5 seconds.
Iβm a little spoiled by this. I did it on Windows and had to rebuild the boot partition.
That's weak. I always pull on the power cord until the plug comes out. That shuts it down in a second flat.
I was talking about a laptop with non-removable battery of course! I turn off my desktop via Zigbee remote hooked to Home Assistant which flips a Zigbee power switch that the AC power cord is hooked up to. Even faster death than going under the desk and unplugging the power cord. Even just unplugging itself takes time.
That random systemd service waiting 1.5 minutes.
You all not suspend/hibernate?
I do yes | sudo pacman -Syu && sudo poweroff
(Update and poweroff)
Fuck that noise sudo shutdown 0
turn off NOW bitch!
I prefer shutdown now gives me a feeling of power
You don't need sudo to run poweroff on Arch, provided there's no other users logged into the system
Assuming you enter your password upon running sudo
, isn't there the risk of sudo
's privilege timing out if pacman
takes too long to complete? I believe I tried something similar, intending to run a one-liner I could start then walk away from. However, I ended up returning to see the system not rebooted hours later.
Or is yes
somehow supposed to take care of this? Sorry, newish Debian user here who hasn't ventured outside the distribution much.
Yes, in this ~~command~~ one liner, the system should not power off when the update took too long.
Or is
yes
somehow supposed to take care of this?
No, yes
is simply answering all questions asked during the update procedure (start upgrade, replace config files, restart services) with "yes".
~~There's no timeout for sudo. When permitted, a process runs as root and then closes.~~
~~Also, the system will still shutdown when update fails because pipes do not care if previous commands exit with a nonzero code, unless pipefail
is set.~~
Edit: i'm blind.
The command after &&
runs only if the previous command returns non-error exit status (0), if pacman
returns error the latter command won't be executed.
Additionally there's probably a configuration option for sudo
for it to not time out, but it doesn't matter since you can just use systemctl reboot
as a normal user to reboot your system (at least on Debian). If that's too long I recommend to add this to your .bashrc
(if you use Bash): alias reb='systemctl reboot'
or something similar.
ya'll aint just pulling out the power plug?
I flip the breaker whenever it's time to shut down.
On my work PC I disabled automatic restarts and I'll just hibernate it for weeks at a time, keeping my work stuff open. Convenient, and I can install updates when I choose to.
goddamn generation loss-ass meme.
Y'all don't delete WSUS, block all of the M$ IPs at both your HOSTS file and your router, and stop all update processes?
Do you even know how Windows works?
I thought the Windows update system is actually not too bad. At least compared to Mac.
Yea, it has a robust rollback system, which is part of why it takes so long now.
But... I only do updates a couple times a year to minimize the headache on my personal machines.
My work machines it's not my problem, but I reboot them at night a couple times a week, just in case.
Compared to Mac? Macβs is so much better? The number of times windows has fucked me over by updating on a restart.
me turning off the power supply: (i didn't have anything open so hopefully it's fine...)
It's much less risky than it used to be. Journaling filesystems reduce the risk of filesystem corruption to near zero and are fairly ubiquitous now on non-removable media.
One thing I've seen my computer do a few times: log me out, by itself. Some rare times I try and unlock back into my session, my current open and active user with my programs running, and instead I am greeted not by my desktop as it was when I locked the screen, but rather the lock screen as it was before I even logged in the first time around
windows: installing updates, do not power off
me: the fuck you are dismantles laptop and rips out battery
Linux: shutdown now