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Where is it illegal to sleep in your car?
this post was submitted on 07 Sep 2025
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almost everywhere in the USA.
Here in Statesia we built "rest stops" on the side of the Interstate were you could stay overnight but have to move on. They're wonderful on a 5-day roadtrip, but if you have to live in your car, they're a reliable toilet, maybe water and one night's decent sleep i guess? I don't know, I've never thought about it in depth. They always seem too far from civilization here to be any use to the unhoused.
Kind of on purpose!
my brain says it's part of that whole Eisenhower Interstate System thing where they made part of the interstate usable as runways every so often, but i'm tired and high and my brain conflates shit when that happens and now i'm too lazy to look shit up.
The runway thing is false
Explaining the interstate highway system and why it exists feels so fucking pepe sylvia meme.
This may be an over simplified version but it's not that crazy to imagine that after fighting a world war where maneuver warfare and mass logistics became even more important than before the USA would want to work on improving those capabilities.
What's more crazy is how it absolutely fucked up communities of color and ruined so many lives in the name of segregation labeled as "progress."
Still, Eisenhower as president, looking through the lens of a general, saw the need for an efficient means to move men and material in war and how great it would be for the peacetime economy too.
At least that's my understanding but I'm open to correction.
Nope. Look up why napoleon³ did it in paris. Same thing.
There's a bit of tye 'moving military shit' thing, but Eisenhower was jniquely positioned to know how trash roads were fpr that. We still use trains today. And we as a culture and government hate trains.
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having been homeless, yeah rest stops basically only exist to make getting from one unwelcoming town with a gas station to another a little more comfortable for people with somewhere to be. we have built our hatred of the nomadic cultures of north america into our hatred of the poor. or more accurately, we hate the poor and then define the poor by the qualities we seek to enforce. because the thing to understand is that the people whose land we stole and the people who we stole from their land to make this country weren't poor until the aristocracy redefined them as being poor
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America
Lots of countries in Europe.
In mine for example.
Really?
I live in Europe and have a van and have been using that parking for the past 4 years and have never had any bother.
Which EU countries are you referring to?
Also to camp on public land? You can on most public property in Ontario as long as you move your camp 100m every 21 days.
Almost no public land in a lot of countries. pretty much everything is owned by someone in the UK
US national forests have a similar rule. It's called "dispersed camping." The issue is, there aren't many national forests. Especially on the east coast, most land is owned by someone, and even state/federal land is rarely a national forest, and nothing else has this rule as far as I'm aware.
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If you move the car every day it should be fine anywhere in the EU*, but that in itself can be pretty annoying if, say, you're trying to keep a job.
If not, there's all sorts of regulations about where and when. IIRC there is no distinction made between cars that are made for sleeping in and those that aren't. But there is a distinction between parking it and living in it.
Personal experience: if you choose your place carefully you're good for at least a week. OTOH, that was a while ago.
* I just remembered that touristy places might not be fine, as happened to me in Holland.
Yeah that's why I'm asking, I've got a van. Not a coach-built moho, just a SWB white van.
Have been driving that around Spain, and when driving back to the UK, several other EU countries and I've never had a knock or been questioned by the pigs or even disgruntled locals.
I have seen loads of mess left by other campers, which will be the root of the problem and we all get tarred as a result
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It's often not, but people do report it. It's just such an asshole mind set
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No, but I will report assholes that are street racing or obviously impaired drivig.
well, yeah. those are people who are endangering innocents and making society worse
Unless the tent is surrounded by trash and broken pipes
I might be homeless, but I still have standards goddammit
Eh... Thats tricky...
I would try and see if someone could do a wellness check, but call a local clinic that deals with that. Dont start with the cops, there is a much higher chance to only make it worse.
Cops? Nah.
Maybe in a state park the park police (rangers), but they'd still have to be pretty blatantly disgusting. I'm just a man with a sixth grade education who loves nature
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