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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 97 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If I get Guantanamo’d for being trans I just want to say: I regret nothing and you cannot force the transness out of me in any way that matters.

I already lived through growing up not even knowing what trans was in the deep south. If you want to deadname and misgender me, I already spent more than half my life doing that shit. That’s old territory I rewalk every time I talk to my siblings. I already know what anti-trans people think, nothing they say about trans people is new or surprising. Decades of it did not break me, and neither would being labeled a terrorist over my gender identity.

In summation: 🖕🏳️‍⚧️🖕

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 weeks ago

Being a "terrorist" to a fascist state means you're one of the good guys.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Listen, if I can't be the me I really want to be (a big, muscular and rich womanizer) due my own sheer laziness and lack of discipline, which would not at all impact me socially, economically or politically, then you can't be the you that you deserve to be 😡

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Headline is somewhat deceiving. Still very very worrying. The push currently is to define trans advocacy as domestic terrorism, rather then to just outright define all trans people as terrorists. The way they are defining "gender ideology based extremism" is still extremely vague so I could definitely see them gradually extending the (or at least their treatment of the) definition of this.

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Within the FBI:

Under the plan being discussed, the FBI would treat transgender suspects as a subset of the Bureau’s new threat category, “Nihilistic Violent Extremists” (NVEs). (From Ken Klippensteins report)

And with the heritage foundation report:

The document takes pains to insist that the proposal would not label “all transgender individuals” as domestic terrorists. Instead, it claims it would only apply when someone is “motivated by an ideology that encourages, promotes, or condones violence” while “inciting unlawful violent action or threat.” But those qualifiers are deliberately elastic. Given the earlier definition of TIVE, even the most basic act of advocacy—like pointing out that anti-trans laws threaten transgender people’s existence—could be construed as “incitement.” The memo itself makes the danger plain: in its list of “typical characteristics” of supposed extremism, it cites a trans flag with the words “protect their right to exist.” (From erin in the morning)

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely vile that they can label "protecting rights" as terroristic. Where are all the "don't tread on me"s at??

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

"Don't tread on me" for these people only ever meant "We tread on you." It was never a statement of some noble value.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh good. So as long as I don’t advocate for myself and just roll over, I’m not an extremist? The differentiation here is… tenuous.

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah of course. Its terrible, I dont disagree. I posted my comments just to ensure there wasn't any misunderstandings.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 17 points 2 weeks ago

Russia did that with anything LGBTQ. Simply waving the pride flag is enough to be arrested over.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The push currently is to define trans advocacy as domestic terrorism, rather then to just outright define all trans people as terrorists.

How many trans people would not support trans rights? It's easy for them to claim any trans person is an advocate of trans rights and therefore a terrorist. There's no safety margin here.

[–] AuroraSystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

“Terrorist group” is about conduct and purpose, not identity. Under 18 U.S.C. §2331, domestic terrorism = criminal acts dangerous to life + intent to intimidate or coerce a population or government. Being trans doesn’t satisfy any of that. Name the act. If one person commits a crime, that’s a criminal; it doesn’t auto-convert millions into “nihilistic violent extremists” (that’s kinda branding, not analysis). Where’s the act, the group, the stated intent to coerce? Also worth noting: trans folks are more often targets than offenders—see the Williams Institute victimization stats, 2021. Rebranding advocacy as “extremism” is just a backdoor speech ban, and it’ll boomerang onto any protest they don’t like. We shouldn’t let that slide.

[–] UnpledgedCatnapTipper@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From the article: The group defines “TIVE” as “the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community],” as well as the belief that opposing trans rights “itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]... or poses an imminent threat to such persons’ emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide.”

[–] marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

With republicans, every accusation is projection. The last part speaks volumes, as it seems they are doing it on purpose. They now want to silence those speaking up about it.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hello.

I’m a terrorist.

I’m a terrorist because I advocate that all the rich people shouldn’t have all the money, and that all the poor people shouldn’t be slaves.

[–] PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

Believe it or not, jail

Those handicapable motherfuckers are determined to put us all in the gas chamber. If you can walk, please walk through the forest into Canada and escape. I know you can't necessarily use passports now but there are no border checks in the forest. Or get a friend to smuggle you out in the trunk of their car. Or pay a coyote to take you to Mexico on the return trip.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How can you be a nihilistic violent extremist? Like, real nihilistic people aren't fucking violent because nothing matters, so why bother... right?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think the incel or 4channish school shooters would fit that description. They're almost all white cis boys though.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Now I have more words to add to my banner.

[–] marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Remember when a lady shopkeeper was shot for having a Pride flag outside the shop? Or when Canadian intelligence services reported they expected a rise in hatred-fueled domestic terrorism against trans people?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

Kash Patel has the biggest “I was bullied at school, but now I’m IN CHARGE of the bullies” energy I have ever seen.