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[–] HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip 148 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty tepid endorsement but somehow still better than many of her peers

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 139 points 1 week ago (3 children)

She tried to pivot to others in the party...

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 158 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago (21 children)

It's still fucked considering she was better in every way compared to the other option. That said, yes she has zero charisma and authenticity. Her entire platform is consultancy-crafted buzzwords and ambiguity.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was exceedingly obvious 2024 was a populist election, and she let Trump take that mantle and run with it. Bernie would have mopped the floor with these corporatists. This is why Mamdani is ascendant.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Please donate to Harris, it's the only way to win."

That's the only message I got from her. Lots of talk around other messages but the one they hammered home in all their canvassing, sms and such was MONEY.

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[–] nuggie_ss@lemmings.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, those few citizens not buying their bullshit can make all the difference.

It's why we should focus all of our efforts on making sure people like her never become the nominee, because that's essentially handing the presidency to the republicans.

Nominating hillary fucking clinton in 2016 over Bernie Sanders was bonkers. I don't think the nation will ever recover from that blunder, and we still don't put the blame where it belongs.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago

Just the worst possible instincts.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus 14 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Holy shit it's (cops are objects not people) doing the literal bare minimum to technically undermine the specific wording of one criticism. Holy shit.

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[–] coffee_nutcase207@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I'm a actually not that cynical of it. In her book she was critical of who the establishment in the Biden administration treated her.

Worse case is she's endorsing him to make her self look good. But honestly I think it's great she did endorse him. It will go a long way with causal/centrist democrats and centerist independents.

[–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (8 children)

It's kinda how I feel about corporations supporting good things. People will point out that they're only doing it for money or whatever, but I don't care. If they all start supporting and normalizing good things, I don't care that it started for dumb reasons.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I studied environmental sciences in school, so the metaphor I think of is that of indicator species, which provide information about the state of an ecosystem. For example, the presence of mayflies indicates good water quality, since poor water quality disrupts part of their lifecycle. Similarly, corporations supporting good things indicates that they feel it is profitable to do so. It indicates the state of public sentiment, and I don't see how that's anything but good news.

Same with Harris (indirectly) endorsing Mamdani: Maybe she's just bending with the wind, but it's good news because of the way the wind is blowing.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago

I'm taking the broad position that last-minute endorsements of Mamdani are just saving face for the establishment. That window closes in mid-October or so.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 week ago

In the most unenthusiastic way possible. But it's better than an outright rejection.

[–] YoHoHoAndAVialOfKetamine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Wow look she does lean left! /s

[–] jonne 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only when she's not running for anything.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's my fan theory that she was only supporting Israel to get campaign donations and would have done what every politician does and abandoned her campaign promises. Iirc while VP she supported investigating Israel in order to nullify the law that says we have to supply Israel with arms.

If you look at her past voting history, it aligns super close to Sanders.

[–] jonne 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Raising half a billion more than Trump didn't do her a lot of good. Maybe next time a candidate should try running on what the people want instead of the donors.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If the election was decided on the basis of "which candidate is going to give us what we want," Trump would have gotten about 15% of the vote. Look around at what's happening now, and it hasn't even got really ramped up yet. We've got years and years more of this stuff. And it's going to get worse (not just politically but in terms of economic suffering, the final death of American science and education, stuff we haven't even really had on the radar yet).

I don't disagree that some of her campaign strategy was bad, keeping Biden in that long was bad, all that stuff, but also... if the people are choosing diving into the empty swimming pool instead of the full one, then sure you could say you could spruce up the full one to make it more enticing and make sure the water's not too cold, but that's not the core of the issue.

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean it’s a long shot, but it would have been easier to convince her than it would to convince Trump.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Which was exactly the point of holding her accountable.

There was zero other avenue than try to pressure her with losing voters. She took the AIPAC money and sold out America to Trump instead.

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh come on! This is just her yet again pandering to the left of the party to get votes. Why won’t she just grow a spine and standup for the values that she stood for. /s

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[–] chisel@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, but has she fixed her laugh though?

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[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Kamala Harris finally sees which way the wind is blowing.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Watch the whole interview, its so bad. She has terrible instincts.

Her "endorsement": I support the democrat, but there are other stars too, like <insert 2 names I literally never heard of> from other mayoral races. Just pissing on the most popular candidate in the country and taking 2 random mayors down with her, instead of "Mandami is great, and I'm really hopeful about these other guys"

She complains that "titans of industry" didn't step in to stop Trump. Her goal isn't to help the american people, but to "restore the guardrails of our institutions". Isn't her dad supposed to be a Marxist? Have they never been in a room for 5 minutes?

Turns out Newsom is as petty as you would expect, while Pelosi and Obama were so ideologically westwing-brained they were more concerned about Biden "having his moment" than actually winning.

Close friend of Trump and Epstein, Bill Clinton, seemed eager to support anyone who had a better shot than post-shitting-himself-debate Biden.

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[–] frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm sure it was based on her deep beliefs, and not a decision made by strategists for her. We are so fucked...

[–] Rekhyt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't look a gift horse on the mouth

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why would she care. She could likely apply for political asylum in say France and leave the country and never have to work another day in her life. She's 60, she doesn't owe anyone anything. She won't run for president, and I doubt she wants to enter another 4 years of VP from 64-68 years old.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Isn't there overwhelming polling saying he is likely to win? Harris hitches herself to whoever is likely to win. That is her entire career.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Alternately, her endorsement is another way the Democratic establishment is trying to make him lose. 😉

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[–] nuggie_ss@lemmings.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People who have lost to donald trump need to be permanently benched.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (14 children)

The DNC:✍️Women✍️and✍️POC✍️need✍️to✍️be✍️permanently✍️benched✍️

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago

Some support...

[–] caboose2006@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love how what would have been mundane and not news worthy with any other candidates (democratic politicians endorsing a democratic candidate for mayoral office) now makes headlines with Mamdani. And by love I mean hate.

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

We all see right through you Kamala.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 9 points 1 week ago

“I support the Democrat in the race,” Talk about a backhanded compliment.

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