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Party prepared to risk government shutdown and will not support GOP bill unless cuts to healthcare are reversed

It has been nine brutal months for congressional Democrats.

Relegated by voters to the minority in last year’s election, they have been powerless to stop Republicans from acting on Donald Trump’s demands to fund an immigration crackdown, strip money for foreign aid and public media, and downsize Medicaid, which provides healthcare to poor and disabled Americans.

That is set to change next week. Funding for the government expires on Tuesday, but Democrats have refused the GOP’s demands to support legislation keeping it open unless the majority agrees to reverse the Medicaid cuts, restore funding to public media and extend subsidies for Affordable Care Act (ACA) plans.

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[–] infrasoundxp@lemmy.zip 105 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good. They'd better stick to their guns this time. Republicans do every time and get exactly what they want when they are the minority.

[–] Exeous@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Agree. Be tough!

[–] kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

they will both agree to raise the debt ceiling again while they say little one liners to farm clips for their tik tok accounts. They are also planning to use this shutdown as a excuse to fire government employees. Nothing about this is "good" its the same performative cycle and they'll do it again next year.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

The news is a joke. I dont watch meet the press, but my wife had it on briefly this morning and the discussion was the shutdown. They all sat there and gave zero reasons why it is acceptable for them to do this and even used a story about how it effects real Americans who live paycheck to paycheck. Not one of them stated anything about how the Republicans are about to remove billions from health care or any other valid argument for why it is needed. It's sad that the news is controlled this much.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Considering Schumer was on television today waxing poetic about how he wants to have a "serious negotiation" with Republicans, once again signaling he's willing to sacrifice everything for nothing, I'm 99% certain they'll puss out yet again, giving these fascists everything they want.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Instead of cutting 100 billion from social services Schumer has negotiated only to cut 99.9 billion

[–] itztalal@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How do we stop people from voting for Schumer and instead pick a candidate that supports the working class?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hopefully they can't successfully sink Mamdani, and establishment Dems finally realize which way the wind is blowing and stop lurching further and further right to appease their corporate masters

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 week ago

I think they do realize it, and are more beholden to corporations and very wealthy donors than to the majority of their constituents.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Im gonna see what actually happens.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Duh the only reason they do budget show downs is to manipulate the bond market to get good entry price before rate cuts lmao. The poors just don’t know what any of that means

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Doge and Trump have been working hard at shutting down everything the government does that actually serves the citizens despite having the funds. But at the same time they're spending trillions in making the country a fascist nightmare with secret police and concentration camps.

What's the downside to a shutdown?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Actually, does a shutdown inadvertently defund ICE, at least temporarily?

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

unlikely. Essential personnel and all.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

Add to it that President Trump has been ignoring the funding allocated through congress. Even if the Democrats negotiate the perfect deal, President Trump could simply not spend the money.

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I'll believe it when I see it, and I don't think there's any fucking way we're going to see it.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"This time I can trust peppermint patty"

-Charlie Brown

[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How dare you besmirch Peppermint Patty's name, she's a trustworthy girl. Lucy van Pelt on the other hand...

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All good homie. Patty was always one of my favorites, I liked her green plaid shirt

[–] bss03 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Are Patty and Marcie a couple? They were in my head, but that could be some lesbian fetishism from my toxic masculinity...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IIRC Patty was always played as a tomboy who had a crush on Charlie Brown. Marcie was just this meek girl who followed Patty around as she was socially awkward and didn't know how to connect with others and Patty was just very open and nonjudgmental.

[–] bss03 3 points 1 week ago

I always felt Marcie's use of "Sir!" for Patty was an acceptance and respect for Patty's tomboy-ness, which is why I ship.

But, yeah, after seeing the replies and checking the Wikipedia article, I think I do remember some scenarios that made Patty's attraction to "Chuck" coupled with his obliviousness the punchline.

[–] HatFullOfSky@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

No, not canonically at least and would've been very taboo in the 50's anyway. The original comics didn't really cover relationships between any of the characters outside of Sally's crush on Linus, Lucy's crush on Schroedinger, and Charlie's crush on The Little Red-Haired Girl. I can just about guarantee though that there is fanfic out there somewhere shipping the two of them.

[–] pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don’t think there have been any official incarnations where they’re together, however it is a popular ship in fan-made content, so it’s not just you.

There aren’t any real romantic relationships in the series, apart from some of the characters having crushes on each other. (Sally on Linus, Charlie on an unnamed red haired girl, etc.)

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Props to them if they can keep the turncoats in check and actually stick to their guns.

That said, I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The democrats are just asking for all the massive cuts to CRITICAL infrastructure to be returned back to the american people. We PAID for these programs and we DESERVE to have medicaid, better healthcare, and lower taxes. Republicans don't care about the american people, otherwise they would have voted AGAINST the BBBA.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah right.

The only question is which specific excuse(s) the Democrats are going to trot out after they do the bidding of their wealthy/corporate donors and cave. Again.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I guarantee they'll roll over and play dead even though it's just about saving some neutered nonsense of what's left (not much) of the ACA.

The government is broken

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they dint oppose the administration at every turn, they are complicit

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they spent 20 to 40 years, watching the Republicans formulate this plan and did nothing to oppose it they are complicit

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Double fair

Republicans will just use this to dismantle more of the government while blaming the democrats and the democrats will walk blindly into this because people who will never vote for them can’t see the truth.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am expecting Chuck and Jeffries to comply in advance.

[–] beatnixxx@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I really don’t get it. Even GOP has the majority why headlines says it’s up to Dems?

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if this is the reason but in the Senate standard budget legislation can be subject to a filibuster. To overcome a filibuster and proceed to a final vote, a supermajority of 60 votes is typically needed.

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[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

roll over!! Whos a good boy?

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Worthless Democrats are conspirators.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

We'll see if the cave after like a week. Their pockets arent infinite like the republicans but this isn't asking much of them.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Do not fail on healthcare!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Oh this time the AIPAC zombies are actually going to do something? I’ll believe it when I see it

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

these comments. Alls I see is the dems should do something and when they do alls I see is. They don't really mean it. Its funny. Dems in power and the right says everything bad is dems fault and the left says everything is dems fault. Reps in power and the right says everything bad is dems fault and the left says yeah the dems are responsible. ugh. with american left who needs the right.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (48 children)

It’s helpful to keep in mind that there’s nothing democratic about the DNC it’s just a bunch of old people colluding with corporations and propping up geriatrics as a vanity show. They haven’t even offered their voters the illusion of representation in decades. They are all cooperators in this. They do budget show downs every year, at this point it’s just to create some bond volatility.

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[–] itztalal@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago

It has been nine brutal months for congressional Democrats.

Oh please.

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