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Tankies circlejerk about China and advocate for Chinese imperialism, removing mentions of Tibet (infosec.pub)

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Hey that’s me!

They finally banned me, too!

All in all a good day.

ETA: I wrote “Free Tibet” not to show support for Tibet, but to show how freedom of speech doesn’t exist in China

And they played right into it.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They tend to play into a lot.

Sorry that you were dogpiled, but you brought out the heavy hitters with your comments, so good job lol

You should also post your ban over to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve been in flame wars since they were at 2400 baud. A .ml dogpile is nothing.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why do you think Tankies are so supportive of eastern imperialism?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

They’re imperialists who hate western imperialism.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Chinese infrastructure isn't particularly built to last.

It's called Tofu Buildings, and the Chinese government regularly suppresses media and the populace from finding out about the lacklustre building standards throughout China. Whenever there's a building collapse, China is quick to censor it, even posts calling for help to look for survivors.

also congrats on the achievement, @Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world!

[+] doben@lemmy.wtf -24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Cool.

Radio Free Asia is a US propaganda tool. Nice source. Also interesting that they asked a Taiwanese professor of all people. So the suppression angle is not credible.

Corrupt planners, which seemingly are at fault here, IMO point towards greedy opportunists, trying to make a quick buck.

But you reeaally try to imply “China bad”. Why would you hone in on that so specifically, when it wasn’t part of the discussion. How about you move your ass over there and post your clever feedback directly under the original post, instead of cowardly spewing sinophobia in your little hate community?

Their mod also gave a solid reason for the deletion and if you would have bothered, you’d include the several comments in opposition to Semi’s low effort spam comment with lots of actual information. He’s not coming out well from this, as he’s just commenting dumb shit without actual content. Ya, congratulations for showcasing your dumb ignorance, Semi. But alas, goat, you’re not interested in that, because you are a dishonest little propagandist, aren’t you?

I’d really prefer you to be more open about your role.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If RFA is a US propaganda tool, why do they need to plead to the US government to restore their media grant?

[+] doben@lemmy.wtf -21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Well, how about you not ask them for an answer? Ask your orange turd, maybe.

At least they’re open about their direct congressional funding. Not sure what else to call it other then propaganda.

The lawsuit asserts that denying funding for RFA, which comes through grants administered by the U.S. Agency for Global Media, or USAGM, violated federal laws, including the U.S. Constitution, because only Congress has exclusive power over federal spending

goat, I’m disappointed. I give you so much to engage with and that dumb take is what you pick? lol.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I give you so many talking points for which I have canned and prepared propagandist answers for and you pick none of them

You some kind of .ml tankie alt account? Jfc maybe hide it a bit better or something.

[+] doben@lemmy.wtf -15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kay, thanks for the feedback, I guess.

Consider this: I’m not an alt. I spent more time writing with your favorite mod here, than I did reading or writing stuff on .ml. Because he’s a dishonest red scare propagandist fishing for libs. Now process this: You’re in a reactionary, progagandist community with a slant for hate speech towards people you deem political opponents. Nice place to hang out in, really.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your account is 2 months old and almost all your posts are on this sub also talking tankie bullshit.

You don't sound like cowbee so...one of the others.

As I offered cowbee, please move to russia or DPRK or china... I'll pay for the ticket.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How many months old does my account have to be, before you stop talking like a conspiracy theorist?

And why do you think “If you like them so much, why don’t you go live there?” is in any way some kind of clever stance? Don’t you like dissenting opinions? You want them gone?

It’s true, that quite a few comments are here, it’s because you’re all such a reasonable bunch of nice folks. I want to know what makes you tick — it’s a bleak picture, tho.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

JFC. 12 hours later and you’re still replying to everyone here with long winded diatribes. Probably gotta be a bot account or something. I can’t imagine a real person, unless it was a paid job, having the sheer time and devotion to a country they don’t live in to sit here and argue with each and every person.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Here’s a long-winded diatribe just for you. I hope your attention span will manage.

with each and every person

Everyone … in this thread, in which you inserted yourself? Bohoo. After I was offline for a couple of hours, iiiimagiiine that!

All you managed until now is complain and showcase your self-proclaimed lack of imagination.

Figure this: You’ve got no devotion, imagination for other perspectives, because all you do is consume western viewpoints in the few hours of each day, in which you are free not to fight for your existence. But imagine that, there‘s a whole world out there, and there do exist diverging opinions. I know, it‘s hard when you‘re trapped in capitalist realism (there‘s a book on that, a suggestion).

And you use the time to hang out with fascists and wanna-be fascists, ranting about a perceived enemy, the authoritarian left. Dude, you’re off the deep end.

Btw, which country am I devoted to, please tell me! China? Because I don’t put up with goat’s bullshit? You might just be an idiot.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How many months old does my account have to be, before you stop talking like a conspiracy theorist?

Considering you acted like you're not an alt, but only come to this sub and have a new account... basically doing only shit an alt would do. No conspiracy theories about it.

And why do you think “If you like them so much, why don’t you go live there?” is in any way some kind of clever stance? Don’t you like dissenting opinions? You want them gone?

Authoritarian opinions are not worthy of being discussed. Just like I don't give two fucks what a Nazi says, I also give no fucks what authoritarians say.

It’s true, that quite a few comments are here, it’s because you’re all such a reasonable bunch of nice folks. I want to know what makes you tick — it’s a bleak picture, tho.

Sure thing.

[–] doben@lemmy.wtf -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Authoritarian opinions are not worthy of being discussed. Just like I don't give two fucks what a Nazi says, I also give no fucks what authoritarians say.

That’s an unworthwhile authoritarian opinion.

So you’re of the enlightened centrist kind of flavor, equating nazism or fascism with communism, believing in horse shoe theory, fearing anything too far off of status quo?

What’s your idea how fascism rises? What is your utopia? Why are you participating in a community based on gossip, propaganda and on hate towards an outgroup? Where is your engagement against right wing extremism? Or is it the left in particular and your commentary about nazis was merely lip service?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

lmao, I'm not a seppo

But this is an interesting example of how tankies operate and why you can't argue with them, or any extremist for that matter. If any source is Western, they must instantly deny it, unless they can find a way to support their position, often by omitting key details.

The key detail here is that the USAGM is independent of the US government, and that the orange turd issued an executive order directing the elimination of the USAGM, which is legally dubious and funnily enough supports Russia and China.

So again, if RFA is a US propaganda tool, why do they need to plead or sue? And why would the US willingly give up media presence in Africa?

[+] doben@lemmy.wtf -14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Why you asking me about internal US affairs? The actual question is how it’s independent, if their financials are in direct dependance of the US government? What would you call a Chinese or Russian media outlet openly funded by their own governments? Oh, because democracy vs authoritarianism? lol. You keep embarrassing yourself, again.

It’s a rhetorical question, tho. The actual actual question is, why is that the one thing you get stuck on, when I gave you so much more to talk about. And you accompany it with some very nice “look what the tankies do” yapping.

Do you’ve actually got something?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's when laws and torts come into play, giving power to go against the government, which RFA is doing. There are no laws in place that allow RT News or other state media to go against their government, and they are beholden to government departments, such as Chinese media needing to obey the Propaganda Department

To guarantee the freedom and impartiality of RFA, there is the USAGM and the firewall, and laws.

So again, if RFA is a US propaganda tool, why do they need to plead or sue?

[+] doben@lemmy.wtf -11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I wonder if you actually read the stuff you link. I guess not, because it’s enough to look valid and well sourced in order to satisfy your loyal users. The few.

Just so it‘s clear: You posted an RFA article to spread some sinophobic propaganda. That‘s what I critiqued in the first paragraph of my inital answer. There were a couple more paragraphs.

But we‘re really busy now going back and forth on a validity of the claim if RFA is a US propaganda tool. And that‘s not even a controversial statement. But you‘ve got nothing and you need to cling onto that point.

Anyway, you know what else is independent? The CIA. You wouldn‘t argue that they are acting independent from or against the interests of the US of A, wouldn‘t you?

As mentioned previously in the Wikipedia article you linked it’s clear, that Trump thinks they‘re a hindrance to his power grab, because the Board was stacked with Biden appointees.

The insteresting part however is, how you need to twist yourself to argue that this media outlet is not what it was meant to be from its inception. That‘s just ridiculous and lays bare your propgandist nature. You‘re denying facts and not the first time, tho, so there‘s a pattern.

RFA was established by the US International Broadcasting Act of 1994 with the stated aim of "promoting democratic values and human rights", and countering the narratives and monopoly on information distribution of the Chinese Communist Party, as well as providing media reports about the North Korean government.

The other interesting part is, how you try to uphold any validity of US law or moral standards, which since Trump started his second term are under attack from the current autocratic and fascist reconstruction. You. Are. A. Ridiculous. Propagandist.

To guarantee the freedom and impartiality of RFA, there is the USAGM and the firewall and laws.

Or really just stuck cognitively, a useful idiot, if you really believe that.

And I‘ll call you out on it, any time I‘m bored and see your dumb takes.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So you're saying that the RFA is a US propaganda tool because the CIA is also an organisation independent from the government?

Why are you comparing an intelligence agency with one that allows for free media reporting? The CIA isn't a media company. You can't even make that comparison.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Why do OOP compared an old picture of a place vs a concept art of another place? They all looks AI generated. They can just take the actual picture and it would also proof the point albeit not as rose tinted as this has. Even better if you compare US to Europe because it still proof a point than this stupid fuck think they had. Tankie are just dumb.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

What you don't argue over memes made in paint? 😆

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

I see the tankies have discovered Delaware and are now trying to use it as a “gotcha”

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mother effer wrote 'ain't' on the internet.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i... i write aint

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Truly sad times we live in, ain't it.