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It’s a beautiful thing to see my state leading the charge against MAGA. I’m sure a few other western states will join us when we inevitably break off.
Of note, I was just telling my wife while we were out for a drive last weekend how much I’ve seen our state flag appearing on peoples homes now. Before Trump people in California rarely if ever displayed the Cali flag, but now I see it everywhere, especially in neighborhoods that typically didn’t have them before.
It is inspiring.
But I really wish we'd step up here on the East Coast. NY, MA, NJ, VT. All should be right out in front with you, but aren't.
They have that new North East or New England health pact thing! They’re working on stuff, but I think they’re rightfully taking stock of what areas they can afford to hit back on. California can basically take care of itself so we have a lot less to lose if the feds try to shut us down.
So you're saying there's a chance.
It’s a beautiful thing to see my state leading the charge against MAGA. I’m sure a few other western states will join us when we inevitably break off.
Damn straight. Proud Californian.
Millions will die in a war before the U.S. let's California go anywhere. If California split from the U.S., the U.S. would start to default on all of the loans without forcing large amounts of the debt somehow onto California. Not to mention the number of military bases and equipment that exists there, the entire western seaboard would be considered a security threat.
also thats where the SEALs train for enlistees corondo, yea they arnt letting it go.
Maybe, but freedom is worth fighting for.
Also, remember that during the revolutionary war the French provided support. I’m sure there are lots of countries that, in a civil war, would join with California in providing defensive equipment and offensive weapons. We’re also 10% of the US population with a whole mountain range providing protection and desserts between us and the rest of the “mainland.” So logistically we’re covered very well if we really have to.
They can consider us whatever they want as long as we’re winners I don’t care.
I’m sure there are lots of countries that, in a civil war, would join with California
New England will. We’ve got them surrounded! I’ll bet we could hire the regressives to fight themselves. We’ll send waves and waves of Southerners against … the South
A staggering amount of the military tools the american empire uses are designed and many made in California and Washington. Boeing Lockheed Raytheon, some Grumman, etc.
The 'arsenal of democracy'? That's us. Less than we used to be–but fascists can't make shit.
Basically all the surveillance tools are made here. The assets are here. The dog shit states can't fight us in open geographically aligned war and they know it.
I think too, and it’s something I’ve seen with my conservative family, is that here on the west coast we took stock of what was happening in Ukraine. I think for a lot of us here we’re learning how drones as tools of war can help make a small army mighty. I get the feeling that the middle America would want to fight with the weapons of WWII (think artillery and tanks) while we could be utilizing drone and electronic warfare. Either way, I don’t want it to come to that. I’d prefer the MAGA base come back to reality and start realizing they’re the ones that kept going further right and not the “Dems” going further left. It’s crazy how much my family has shifted in ideology over the last decade meanwhile I haven’t changed position, but somehow I’ve become the leftist.
but somehow I've become the leftist
offers an entire handful of pills papers and candies
But real talk: yeah it would be great if they could be people again. I'm not sure most of them can. I'm not sure it's practical to save the ones we maybe can. I think death is genuinely the only out for them. I hate this. I hate what they've become, and more than that I hate what they did ti themselves to become it. I hate that there are things that look like people–even specific people we used to love–that just aren't anymore.
It feels like living through some real-life version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Pod people. Pod people everywhere...
The USA wouldn't have a western seaboard if California and the western states secede
This attack on our universities from the radical right wing is especially worrisome.
Worrisome, sure. It's step one in any anti-intellectual movement.
Can't have smart people because smart people will undermine you every step of the way. They're doing it now.
Can we fucking secede already?*
*I'm not even sure how much of that statement is a joke anymore.
No, let's just cut out the cancer. We keep the rest of the US together.
I don't know anything about Newsom, but I do know that I like his current strategy.
He’s a slimy, self-serving, two-faced neoliberal villain.
But right now, he’s the villain we have to team up with to fight a much, much, much worse villain. Just don’t forget that he’s not our friend and would happily burn us all alive for some modest corporate kickbacks.
He doesn't seem so bad to me
He literally does photo ops tearing down homeless encampments. If you don't have an issue with that, then I guess he is your guy. Yes, there are quite literally worse people, but that doesn't mean he doesn't suck.
He's only opposing fascists because his attempt to join them failed. He's trying to walk a thin line of not pissing them off too much and getting them to think he's worth recruiting. He'll join them if they offer.
Oh, I think he'd hold out for fairly massive corporate kickbacks. He knows what they can afford.
The epitome of limousine liberal.
Completely owned by Big tech and VC.
Everything he's doing now is for his presidential run, but that doesn't mean there's no value to any of it.
At this point, we'll take what I can get, and he knows that.
He's a bigoted hyper privileged piece of shit caricature of an 80s movie villain who got into politics because the city said 'no' to something about his wine bar where the chairs were arranged into the word 'sex'. Hes totally owned by silicon valley cryptofascist tech billionaires.
He's basically genx 'what if trump wasnt developmentally disabled'.
Which is better, but let's not cheer for him.
The goal is to shut down higher education for the masses. So it's not really the best strategy.