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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 25 points 1 day ago

For anyone with any inclination to believe the marketing that megacorpos will stand for some kind of lofty techno-libertarian ideal of somehow standing up to strongmen tyrannical governments...

I wish to remind us all of how IBM acted in WWII

And corporate business dealings with a clearly evil Nazi regime before and sometimes after the outbreak of the war itself.

And on the surface, corporations pretended to have more respect and decorum back then! Now the mask is off and they know nobody will touch them.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Do you suppose if we keep giving into the demands of a fascist that he'll stop making demands?

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You just painted an image in my mind. Imagine this: EVERY INHABITANT in the USA is finally so sick of Donny's shit, that we ALL leave, scatter across the world and make home anywhere else but the USA. Leaving Donny all alone to rule after abso-fucking- lutely no one. The ultimate fuck-you to Orange man.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm still convinced the app was a honey pot.

No one heard about it until media started reporting about it, then it took this long to take it down while Tim Cock was giving trump bribes. Like that cheap acrylic thing with 24k gold stand.

There was already a website that reported ICE locations without risk of sending your location to someone.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it were a honeypot, why would Trump tell Apple to remove it?

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

That trump asked to remove it is assumed by us.

It might as well be a security researcher contacting them or self censorship like Google is doing right now.

And a lot of heat is off the tyrannical applesque shit google is pulling with closing down android

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Can't make demands if there's nobody left to make demands to.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago

Surely there are only so many demands he can make before he's fully satisfied, right?

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of these big tech companies complicit with Nazi tyranny need to be put in their place. They've caused too much destruction and continue to do so.

Since it is both expensive and time-consuming for people to just up and switch to (thing that doesn't exist yet) - everyone should at least review their subscriptions. If paying for a sub through Apple, cancel it. Subscribe directly to the vendor if you really need it. Stop paying for Apple's cloud services, and cancel any other Apple sub.

If your phone/tablet/computer is getting old and needs replacement, get a new battery, back it up, reset to defaults, it'll feel like a new phone as long as the hardware is working.

If devices need replacement, look into used/refurbished rather than new.

Donate money or time to projects like postmarketOS, LineageOS, GrapheneOS, Meshtastic if you have the means. We all really need to get off of big tech and back to the open Internet without these walled companies, but it will take a lot of work to dethrone them. It can be done though!

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Are you a time traveler from the past who thinks that phone batteries are still replaceable?

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It shouldn’t have been an app. It should be a website.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lots of things are apps even though a website would have been good enough or better. It’s just insane these days.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed. And those apps are nearly always just embedded web browsers!

Sure, the UI can be nicer on small displays, but the app tends to have fewer features than the site. Just don't see much real benefit in that.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These need to be WebApps people

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

And this is why your manufacturer entirely controlling what can be installed shouldn't even be legal, let alone default.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 19 points 1 day ago

Exactly! If your app can be wiped off the face of the Internet on a moment’s notice, you’re clearly putting way too many eggs in one basket. Even a mobile friendly website would be good, but a proper web app would be so much nicer.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

GAFAM will always bend to the dictator. It took 15 minutes for google to change its maps to "golf of america" because woke up and had this idea.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This would be cool - spread it across multiple platforms, repositories, ect. It'll be nearly impossible to get rid of as long as the API isn't targeted itself. Trusting apple/google is a losing game in the long run. FOSS

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, it should be a Signal bot. Self hostable, or with a website somewhere outside the US run by someone who is never coming here, if your group is not into doing self hosting. We should be in this for the long haul and encouraging good practices, I think. It freaks me out that people are using Reddit for 50501 and putting this stuff on their phones where they can see who has it installed.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I cannot tell you how many conversations I've had with people that work in tech, and theoretically (?) know some history about how things have come and gone - they might even remember things like AIM or Yahoo messenger, etc., might be aware, vaguely, about XMPP or Matrix or IRC, and yet....they rush to use wholly corporate owned and controlled things like Slack which does not have E2E encryption and probably never will, or Discord, or....

The problem with most of the "techbros" is that most people either don't know any history and are not encouraged to learn it, either, because, well, that's "old", so what could you possibly learn from it, or there is just so much hivemind thinking that even people that do know history tend to be fearful of bringing it up, else they look like they aren't "cool".

It's all rather embarrassing to watch, really, as someone that actively DID seek to learn from my elders in tech and have been doing this for decades. The overall industry seems to have the memory of a coked-up goldfish.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

I hear you. That network effect is insidious.

I really like tinkering with trying to make things a community would use. I have my home server, and I just set up a Luanti / Minetest server, and I want to dabble in MeshTastic, and get people to use Matrix and Signal instead of Discord.

....and then I just think nobody will bother anyway, so... :(

Sadly the bigtech powers have overcome the required "friction" of consideration and discernment when it comes to choosing how one communicates.

When you're comfortable, it's easy not to give a shit. "Maus" gives a pretty terrifying picture of hanging out with people like this, in 1930s eastern Europe, and their lack of concern.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Joshua presented at this year's HOPE.

https://schedule.hope.net/hope16/talk/8Y9D9Z/

ICEBlock and the Age of Digital Activism

I don't think they have (yet?) sliced up their videos into separate talks, but it starts about here....the amount of questions/challenges about security was indicative of the community, I'd say.

https://youtu.be/Pm4tC2Mnabs?t=22318

[–] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

The small price they have to pay to get NLRB complaints dropped and favorable tariff treatment, apparently.

It is astounding the rate at which companies and institutions are knuckling under. It hasn’t even been a whole year yet.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Apple cares about your privacy though. Every fanboy simp always says it, so it's definitely true.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one cares about our privacy. Even us.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you use any Google products or products that were influenced in their production by Google, like android based systems including GrapheneOS, or any browser that uses blink/chromium like Brave?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the only google product i use is a pixel. and only because graphene. but as soon as it's dead i'm switching to a linux-phone. And no chromium either. Why?

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Because there are way more products that fuck privacy than google. So why did you specifically asked for those and a browser-base? Not to say google doesn't suck big sweaty monkey balls

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 1 points 13 hours ago

Because there are way more products that fuck privacy than google.

Like what?

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And apparently it is so entrenched now that even the review sites/researchers/etc. don't bother doing research into what data Apple harvests anymore. They just believe them implicitly. There are services on all their platforms like mediaanalysisd that scan files and categorize into categories like "human, pet, good photo, bad photo, drivers license, badge, social security number" and they even have the capability to analyze video and "auto-caption" the video, they claim it's an accessibility feature. It is also a great metadata generation and harvesting tool for all media on the device, and trivial for the contents of that metadata to be spirited away to Apple or elsewhere.

Classification excerpt from that process in particular:

meme_document_check_or_checkbook
meme_curation_meme
meme_curation_screenshot
meme_document_boarding_pass
meme_document_currency_or_bill
meme_document_driving_license
meme_document_office_badge
meme_document_passport
meme_document_receipt
meme_document_social_security_number
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Doesn't surprise me. "Better than Google" = "never question again"

We let our machines use us instead of using our maxhines. We assumed 'easy' was the same as 'good' and so are now fucked.

Bill Burr approved.