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[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This "fact sheet" looks like Lockheed Martin marketing material. I feel like an enthusiast's fact sheet would be more likely to focus on the plane itself instead of the programs and partnerships.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perhaps they have the plane autism that's about the business side of things.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Business autism. Loves working with others.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right and the facts aren’t even that great. I lowkey call bullshit on this.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I high key call this a joke

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't joke about plane facts! Especially not when laminated!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thank you for subscribing to plane facts.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how many plains could an airplane air if an airplane could plane air?

[–] ours@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

And boring marketing material at it.

I remember as a kid, a good friend gave me the marketing material for (at the time) Aérospaciale helicopters. That stuff was premium with beautiful, detailed drawings of a Super Puma on very fancy paper. I loved that shit.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As a very not-autistic, super cool and normal guy, he's definitely autistic if his favorite plane is the F-16 and not the SR-71!? I can DM you the paper I wrote on it in college for an assignment on the subject of love, entitled Love is Like an SR-71 Blackbird.

[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I just love MiG's. Why? Because the ruskies just rawdogged everything. They saw the F16 with all that fancy fly by wire stuff and made a nimble MiG without any real computer assisted flying with the fulcrum. You have the fastest plane with the SR-71? Well fuck that, here , we've put an after burner on that MiG-31 so big it more or less matches the SR-71 speed. It just burns through the engine in one flight and the airframe also takes a big hit when you use it but who cares about costs, we're commies.

Soviet aerospace engineers man. You just have to love them. They really used that hammer logic (hit it harder!) on everything.

Or the approach which led to the hind heli. What? You need a gunship and you need a troop transport? What do you say, the Americans have pinpoint precision on that superCobra and that shiny Apache thingy?

Here, i've made it big so it can fit a lot of troops. I've added some large wings so you can fill her up with all kinds of low tech Rockets so you don't need pinpoint precision. Just point and click in the general direction and everything over there is annihilated. Yeah, that goes for that tank and that family of twelve 100m further down the street where you didn't aim at as well.

But, they aren't us anyway so.... And next to that the fucker is really fast for such a big helo..

The design principles are so fantasticly wack. Matching (try to) western computertech with low tech solutions.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am glad you made this comment about the MiG 31 so I didn't have to, lol.

Fancy schmancy j58 turbo "ram" jet with convoluted design that has two different afterburner / bypass loop modes, with crazy air bypass/recycling plumbing?

Nah, fuck that.

Just make the entire engines out of titanium and nickel, we have a lot of that shit in Siberia, and, use a fuck off huge heat exchanger system in the single bypass loop.

Also, this quote:

During the flight research period, two aircraft were lost - the first prototype and the first production one. There were no casualties, and this, in comparison with the results of other machines being created, was quite a good indicator.

  • ENGINES OF RUSSIAN COMBAT AIRCRAFT by Kotelnikov V. R., Khrobystova O. V., Zrelov V. A., Ponomarev V. A. (Mediarost, 2020)

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/secrets-of-the-d-30f6-turbofan.44489/

Apparently this is where you go when you're too old to know what a 'Warthunder' is, lol.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Anything can match the SR-71 if you strap enough afterburners to it.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Found the Kerbal.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, you need more than afterburners. The SR-71 had some very advanced nozzle inlets for its engines which allowed the plane to move and bounce the supersonic shockwave around in the engine inlet to generate extra compression and to keep the incoming air from just building up and flowing around the engine instead of through it. If you took a F22 and pushed it up to those speeds, it would flame out and stop working long before it got near the SR-71's too speed.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

SO YOUZ SAYING WE NEEDA PAINT 'ER RED TOO OI, DEM BURNAS MAKE 'ER GO FASTA

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sometimes. The SR-71 has red paint on critical leading edge pieces to emit red and infrared radiation more effectively to keep the surfaces cooler in flight and awww I'm just fucking with you.

Dis wun iz smart. Dey understand how physics work. Red iz 'da fastest kolor.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

Introduced in 1966 and people still feel this threatened by her sheer superiority. Incredible. That's why she's the greatest.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I love Soviet stuff, too, but didn't know the story of the MiG. I actually have a small collection of Soviet watches, mostly space/aeronautics themed.

Could I....um see it please

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I do like this plane...

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd say you might want to sit down, but something tells me I don't need to...

Edit: Jk, it's a very nice-looking plane. What can you tell us about it to convince us?

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did your paper include the ground speed check story?

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the fuel leakage due to thermal contraction at rest?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yes to fuel leakage, no to the ground speed check story. I didn't encounter that until later, as I was in college ~2003-2007.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe my paper predated my exposure to that story, as I was in college ~20 years ago. Maybe that story was circulating then, too, I don't remember.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well fuck you for insinuating 2005 was 20 years ago. No need to be so hostile!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah! I'm with you! 2005 was like 3 years ago.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

At the very least the f15 strike eagle (the most successful combat airframe of all time if you look at missions to frame losses or mission success).

[–] unrealMinotaur@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, I mean, this is a sales pitch, it feels like. Are salesmen autistic? Probably some of them!

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Does Costco carry F16s in bulk? Need a 4 pack for a friends only match.

Assuming this isn't fake I'd guess "made laminated fact sheets" means printing out fact sheets from the Lockheed Martin website & laminating them. Not making the original document.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would say not many lol. Autistic people love talking about stuff they don't care about to people they don't know /s

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Had a conversation about the best celebrity chefs when I went to pick up my dog from day care lol.

Kitchen nightmare UK good.

Kitchen nightmare USA bad.

[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But he's wrong. The F-15 is... Oh, no

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's spreading via plane facts!

[–] JaymesRS@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I love my laminator. Favorite office tool, evar.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's just because you haven't met my label maker. It does the letters one at a time, manually, embossed into a strip of plastic.

[–] JaymesRS@piefed.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Oh, I am familiar with those, I had one in black-and-white. The laminator has just superseded that; it is still my second favorite piece of office equipment.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I actually did this with warbler identification sheets, I feel so called out 😭 At least they’re not hitting Mach 2 I guess, that probably makes them easier to identify.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a novice to birding, Imma need those references!

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I use these from Cornell, you have to sign up to download them but it’s free once you do that. Happy birding and good luck, warblers are tricky, especially in fall!