Liberals and neo-Nazis opposing Russia doesn't imply they have much else in common. In the run up to WW2, part of what made fascism seem tolerable to moderates is that it would be a strong check against the spread of Marxism, making it appear as a lesser evil. But that common enemy wasn't enough for liberal and fascist nations to get along for very long.
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I'm convinced Desalinnes is a Russianbot.
nah, just consumed by propaganda
Russia supporting Stalinists 🤝 Zionists
Falling for genocidal rhetoric of autocratic regimes.
but neo-nazis are in support of Russia because they think Ukraine is owned by jews lol
There's nothing nazi in calling out the nazi jews of Ukraine. Have you seen their president? He's a jew and he's fighting matyushka Rossiia, that's pretty nazi of him /s
Just because neo-Nazi might accidentally be on the right side or something doesn't make it wrong. But leave it to Desalines to continue to be wrong.
You can lead a tanky to knowledge, but you cannot make them think.
Please help me, neo-nazis consume water, what can I drink in place of if?🤣
when are we going to defed from these lying sacks of shit
Tankies are bad faith actors. They know what they are doing and they are doing it on purpose. The goal is waste peopels time IMHO
They don't shill anything beyond idiotic talking points that are copy pasted
That's because Stalinism is conservatism applied to socialism rather than capitalism, and often these Stalinists prefer conservatives (or even fascists) to more libertarian leftists.
Conservatism is authoritarianism. nothing more to it. Left and right is nothing more than an afect they adopt regarding those they seek to control. They always seek to conserve the power of the in group.
A lot of the nazis I've seen support Russia for... some fucking reason.
It's because they think Ukraine is owned by the jews
they also find Russia "based" because of how xenophobic it is.
I guess they can't help but admire the ruthlessness and cruelty that russian government displays towards every kind of minority that had a misfortune of being conquered into an empire
Well they were best friends in the beginning. So it makes sense.
i’ve been blocking them and hex bare for a while now
amen to that, I've noticed that 90% of the trash takes come from one of those two
it honestly makes me want to leave lemmy entirely… nobody would have a problem defederating with a nazi instance, why tolerate fake authoritarian “communists”?
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and they’re obviously fake-ass concern trolls… i don’t want to share any space with them.
you should raise this issue up with your instance
It was my understanding that the socialist republics that made the soviet union were all sovereign. Guess they were Russian puppets after all.
oh yeah, sovereign alright... as long as russia had the final say
Tankies like to call nazi pretty much anyone who they do not like. Pretty much how "woke" is used by the actual nazis, which, in turn, use this tankie rhetoric as a wild card to show us how they are not actually that dangerous as they seem to be. I'm pretty sure someone saw not just once, something the likes of "oh, now whenever there's something you don't like that's nazi, right?"
but don't you dare call them tankies!
Try calling out Jewish billionaires for their support of the genocide state.
Report back the parma ban 🤣