You can take my automatic climate control from my cold dead hands. Fuck this!
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My dacia spring has it exactly like that π
You feel how you physically move the airways by rotating the wheel where you choose the air coming out
The next thing will be: I can't toggle my AC because AWS is down.
your seats overheat and get stuck in the most forward position
Unless you pay the subscription fee.
Or perhaps, I canβt toggle my AC because I forgot to pay my subscription fee.
Everything after THIS was a mistake.

1985 Nissan 300ZX
Oh, that was my first car. Sometimes, the display changed to something weird though, like this:

One of my best good mates in school had an 84 200 that we dubbed Tron cause of this awesome setup. Great share, thanks!
Por que no los dos?

Having auto climate with physical controls is peak. No adjusting dials, your car just gets the internal climate to the temperature you want and that's it.
I almost agree with this, but I prefer just one more advancement over this: the thermostat kind. I like to just set the temperature so I don't have to keep adjusting it.
Nothing fancy, no touchscreen bs, just simple knobs. I was perfectly happy with the thermostat feature in my old 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT.
I've got an old car and it's still like this. I don't look forward to the day I have to get a new car.
Iβd argue split climate for the driver and passenger seat is the only important missing innovation.
Just point the vents fancyman
I somewhat regularly drive 9+ hours and split controls are not really comparable to just pointing the vents. If I am the driver, I need cool air blowing at me to keep me awake and alert. No longer having to compromise with passengers has been a pretty big improvement for a drive that long.
This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.
This works well and it's not a hill I'll defend but automatic control of temperature is better when it's done well. In the UK we have a culture of driving cars with manual transmission and I've never understood it when automatic transmissions exist and are pretty good. People wanna feel like they are in control of stuff.
Not sure about the UK, but I know Germany likes manuals because they last longer when you have a lot of hills and mountains.
Well, as a kid I thought by the time I'll do my driver's license there will be no more manual transmissions around.
Turns out, automatic is just still way more expensive to buy AND, as I recently learned, crazy expensive in maintenance.
It's about 5-10% more in the UK. The maintenance on a reliable transmission is fairly minimal but any mechanical problems are almost guaranteed to be a nightmare buried under a mountain of metal. I've been spared that trauma so far but I remember test driving a used VW Passat which clunked with every shift. Thanks for the test drive, bro.
I like electric, because fuel and maintenance is so cheap
how hard do you want it? how hot do you want it? where do you want it?
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Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn't go full blast at the beginning, it's amazing.
Automatic AC is good. Having an accident while looking at which part of the touchscreen the finger has to press is straight retarded engineering.

I wish my wife understood how that worked. She always gets in, and since the engine hasnβt warmed up yet, the heat doesnβt come on, so she cranks it up to 30C.
Fuck that, give me a thermostat any day of the week.
I disagree. I like that I can set my temperature to an exact number and the car will automatically adjust to that temp. We should have stopped there. No need for touch screens. Thatβs was the holy grail of temperature control.
That has 5 moving parts, while a touchscreen has none. It's much easier and cheaper for the manufacturer to install the touchscreen. But instead of passing the savings to you, they probably keep it or pass it on to investors.
But the touch screen comes with a price you pay for the UI development which is not a small amount. So while installing it might be cheaper, in the end I would argue it's more expensive.
The nobs are cheaper, because you donβt need a motor changing the airflow, you just use the power of the human rotating the nob to adjust the airflow to go to the right spot
And you donβt need a cpu nor gpu
Waaay cheaperβ¦
The CPU and screen are already in the car for other things. No cost there. And I don't think you actually know how to make a nob.
Depends on the car..
Name a car without a cpu. Year and model. Removing cpus means you are removing much more than touchcreens.
Exactly.
Each of those knobs needs an injection mould, each switch behind it a supply chain. Iterating on digital design is far cheaper as well.
It's far cheaper to use what are effectively 10 year old tablets in the cheaper cars. Since LCDs are being mass manufactured for other things that likely get a nice economy of scale.
So long as the vents have analog dials that manipulate how much air is coming out. Otherwise I'd have to be pro left/right temperature difference. When it's 100 degrees out side and someone says the AC is to cold it blows my mind
Wrong. This has no ads. How will I become a tech billionaire if I can't disable your breaks until you watch my ad?
Yours is a decade or two past the true ideal. Not pictured: the 5-inch sliding control that mechanically adjusted between recirculated and exterior air and the drivers and passengers pull-knob by the feet that let exterior air flow in directly. A heavenly touring experience.
Also on the one pictured in your post, I find those lit press to toggle ac and def buttons with indicator lights wore out over time and required a ton of force to switch on the cars I've had with them.
I want to set my hvac to a temp and let it sort out whether it should heat or cool.
How fast do you want it, how hot do you want it, where do you want it