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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago

Time to quote the Bible to the boomers who always hypocritically claim to love it so much:

"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:" - Ecclesiastes 3:1

...and mayonnaise should be used extremely wisely: never in vain, never merely due to tradition - and no matter what, it should always be used with full knowledge about its true, if somewhat mysterious and indescribable-in-words purpose. Those who never consider these mysteries are not fit to decide whether it is appropriate to use mayonnaise or not.

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[–] stray@pawb.social 66 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

The inexorable rise of identity condiments has led to hard times for the most American of foodstuffs. And that’s a shame.

My son Jake, who’s 25, eats mayo. He’s a practical young man who works in computers and adores macaroni salad. He’s a good son. I also have a daughter. She was a women’s and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise.

newer generations are refusing to meekly fall in line with a culinary heritage that never was theirs. Instead, they’re gobbling up kefir and ajvar and chimichurri and gochujang again.

Red Robin launched a vegan burger. You don’t put mayo on a vegan burger.

McDonald’s has debuted a Signature Sriracha Burger, joining KFC, Wendy’s, and Subway in signing on to the sizzling Thai sauce’s moment in the sun. You didn’t see Huy Fong Foods start a schmear campaign against the cultural appropriation of that.

Some experts say the dislike springs from the fact that mayo jiggles. [...] This is bullshit. This attitude comes to you from young people who willingly slurp down eight kazillion kinds of yogurt, not to mention raw fish and pork belly and, yo, detergent pods, so don’t talk to me about mayonnaise. The only reason for this raging mayophobia is a generation’s gut-level renouncement of the Greatest Generation’s condiment of choice.

Besides, I’ve got news: That aioli you’re all so fond of? I hate to break it to you, but that’s just mayonnaise.

Sandy Hingston sounds mad.

Also what? Mayo is still super popular, so what is she even on about? Is she hamming this up because she feels like this is what's necessary to make it in journalism these days?

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 43 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Systemic issue in journalism. The actual reporting breaks down to a one liner; "mayonaise less popular with younger generations, increasingly diverse choice of condiments instead", but that doesn't generate revenue

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry, "identity condiments"? The fuck?

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (8 children)

She was a women’s and gender studies major in college. Naturally, she loathes mayonnaise.

Naturally? Is it some feminist thing to loathe mayo? Why?

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Because it's hens and cows that are farmed for their products, veganism is a feminist issue.

Feminism is notoriously concerned with chromosomes rather than personhood. /s

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Guy hadn't had real aioli. Doesn't even know what aioli is.

Name literally means "garlic and oil" because those are the only two ingredients you need for it.

It's very easy to make at home; start with a few toes of garlic and a table spoon on olive oil. Crush and mush them together till it seems like the oil disappeared. Then add another tablespoon of olive oil and repeat till you have this nice, white looking condiment.

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[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This sounds like a bit. Seriously, how do you hit every culture war talking point but make it about mayonnaise? No one has strong feelings about mayonnaise, Sandy. Only you.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's like traditional media figured out in 2016 Boomer ragebait is the only thing they know how to do anymore, and just keep doing that when they're out of ideas.

Article tl;dr "Kids today are traitors to the nation because they aren't Stephen Miller, drinking mayonnaise by the gallon, because it's not threatening to people with fragile egos and no sense of curiosity."

Plus, trashing ajvar and chimichuri? How bold of you, Sandy. How courageous to turn up your nose at flavors that you were not exposed to in some midwest surbabn bubble. When you die and your spirit is flung into the void between lives, where you learn how you'll be reincarnated as a racoon for 20 lifetimes because of the karma you accrued just from penning this single article, I hope the spirits of your Lithuanian parents remind you that judgement like this poisons the soul slightly more than mayonnaise does.

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[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

That read like a shit post. Does Jake drink mayo straight from Sandy's tit still? Cause something ain't right there

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[–] Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] yakko@feddit.uk 39 points 1 week ago

It is, and we probably did kill that one but they never wanna give us credit for the good we do

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 26 points 1 week ago (19 children)

What does Hellman's have to do with mayonnaise though? That nitrogen-pumped piss is mayo the same way those American individually wrapped slices of milk-plastic is 'cheese'.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

I'm going to continue to die on this hill: American cheese slices typically have cheddar cheese as the very first ingredient. They are made of real cheese, dairy, and an emulsifier. Basically think of a cheese sauce with a higher melt temp but nobody seems to claim fondue is fake cheese

Are they good though? That's subjective, I think they go great on burgers, grilled cheese, and ramen. Are they plastic or use fake cheese? No. If you want to be accurate while high horsing about it you could call them watered down congealed cheese though

Edit to add: the individually wrapped ones are an ecological nightmare. The deli deluxe ones are higher quality, not individually wrapped, and don't even cost that much more. Or just buy not Kraft they don't need the money anyway and other companies make American cheese slices too. You can even find emulsified cheese slices for other types of cheeses if you want variety on your burgers and grilled cheese

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

but nobody seems to claim fondue is fake cheese

Fondue is literally just shredded cheese. The typical Swiss fondue, la moitié-moitié (half half) is 50% Gruyère and 50% Vacherin + a little bit of potato starch if it’s an industrial one (otherwise it’s only cheese and you add potato starch if you want, it’s only to have a better texture and not mandatory).

Other types are just different cheeses, from a single one up to a mix of 3, varying from regional preferences.

Ingredients of an industrial fondue found in any Swiss supermarket:

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

You're responding to someone whose point is really clear but to quote an article on the history of American cheese:

The first step in transforming American cheese into the distinct entity it is today can be traced back to Switzerland in 1911 when Walter Gerber and Fritz Stettler developed the world's first processed cheese by shredding Emmentaler cheese and heating it with sodium citrate into a firm, unified substance upon its cooling.

This swiss process was then picked up by a canadian by the name of Kraft looking to make a cheese with longer shelf stability for the purpose of being left open at delis for slicing. It was made by melting cheddar chunks together. And stirring.

The term american comes from British snobbiness.

The inability to legally call it cheese comes from the natural cheese lobby. If it matches this criteria it cannot be called cheese:

a stable concoction of natural cheese cheese bits mixed with emulsifying agents [used to make] a homogenous plastic mass.

That having been said american cheese is disgusting and anyone who purposely eats it is insane to me.

[–] Skunk@jlai.lu 5 points 1 week ago

So the term "Swiss cheese" for those industrial blocks is legitimate, it’s our fault 😔

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[–] stray@pawb.social 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I can't find any reference to nitrogen used in Hellman's mayonnaise. Do you perhaps mean that they fill the airspace at the top of the jar with nitrogen to displace oxygen and increase shelf-life? I believe that's a very safe and common practice in food packaging.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Noooo! Nitrogen is poison! If you breathe pure nitrogen, you'll die!

inb4 libtard scientists saying "hurr durr air is 70% nitrogen" yeah right LIARS

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

They are just ignorant and mouthing off.

MERICAN FOOD BAD. AMERICAN CHEESE NOT REAL 🙄

Anyone, who says American cheese isn't real probably can't explain what an emulsifier is.

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[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

"Pasteurized prepared cheese product"

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Mayonnaise into aioli is the most successful rebrand of all time. Mayonnaise is dead, long live mayonnaise

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it also creates a hydrophobic layer on bread so you can have a moist sandwich and not have it drown the bread

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 20 points 1 week ago (8 children)

What? Mayonnaise is absolutely still a thing.

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[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is with this constant narrative of us millennials killing shit?

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Millennials are brutal murderers

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Not the generations before them.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone else try the plant based mayo? It’s indistinguishable, it’s great

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mayo is 99% plant based already. Just a little egg yolk to act as a surfactant.

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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'm a simple woman, I love me some mayo

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago

Millenials didnt kill mayonnaise... We might have killed Miracle Whip, but even Miracle Whip would famously claim it isn't mayonnaise.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not mayonnaise. Stop calling it mayonnaise.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What is mayonnaise to you? I thought Hellmans was the mayonnaise?

Of course, I would not know better than most, as I hate mayonnaise and am a 57-year old woman from Vietnam.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm a 46 year old French man, and thanks to my family and travels I've tasted a variety of mayonnaises, all across the spectrum and a lot of the industrial stuff just tastes awful. They add so many preservatives in order to make it shelf stable, it completely loses any hint of the original flavour.

You can make fresh mayo with an egg yellow, some oil, a dash of vinegar / lemon juice (something acidic, really) and some mustard. Mostly you beat it until you've the desired texture and that's about it! Even just this, you'll have people arguing endlessly about which oil, which acid, which mustard, which proportions, etc :,D

Hellmann's isn't completely terrible, mind you. I was mostly being facetious with my remark.
It was the usual stuff you'd get in Ireland when I lived there, and it was okay. But there were much tastier brands available. And when I'm in France, even industrial brands, we have much better alternatives :P

I reckon Vietnam must have the same issue as we had in China : it's too damn hot! And since real mayo is uncooked egg yellow it's super bad to keep it at room temperature for too long. I never bought any while living there, because it wasn't in my shops and I just adapt to whatever people eat locally, but sometimes when I ordered pizza they would have "mayo" sprinkled on top and although it was delicious, the fact it was sweet makes me think it had nothing to do with the original stuff :P

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

I really like mayonnaise, it makes for good sauces and macaroni salad is just best thing ever

Fake news... mayonnaise is still big and enjoyed in many different fishes, and by people in many different places. I love it on several things

[–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I still fw egg salad though.

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