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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We've had the software to automate loading and unloading the dishwasher for a long time now.

Making the hardware reliable and affordable is what stands between us and fully automated household chores.

My robot vacuum is affordable but gets stuck on things often enough that I just rather vacuum manually once a week instead of daily rescue missions.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Still waiting for flying robot vacuums or robots with vacuums, which also clean the stairs, shelves and other surfaces in the house.

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[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I just wanna say that while I agree with the sentiment of the post, AI has nothing to do with this.

We've had dishwashers and laundry machines that are super efficient and effective for many years. A lot of those chores are being done for you by automation.

LLMs have much fewer practical applications

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The point of note, is that if we didn't have so many freeloaders, rich or middling do nothing jobs, we would have plenty more time to explore our passions.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

She is aware that dishwashers and laundry machines exist. She's saying that she wants AI to do her dishes and laundry tasks, the same as she does when she's using those machines. The entire process.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yep.

"But we already have dishwashers and washing machines"

No shit, but for some reason when I put my dirty clothes in the laundry basket they don't show up folded in my drawers without me, ya know...doing the laundry.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of terms are starting to blend... Now anything that does work a human could also do is AI / robots / automation / machine learning.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Are you talking about AI in general or only generative A'I'? Because as far as I know, a, say, robot maid (of sorts) that would load and empty your dishwasher/washing machine, organise stuff, clean, whatever other domestic labor most people don't like, could be considered AI, just used for different purposes.

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[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why are the robots creating art and the humans packing boxes?

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Capitalism; most of the time art isn't profitable, and if it is, the profit goes to the artist, not to shareholders. So if we make bots for it, we can force everyone to do wage labor in shit conditions.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Art is very profitable for the rich and elite, in terms of laundering money.

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[–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Because creating art is easier than packing boxes.

You have to start somewhere.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

There is way more robots packing boxes than taking art and writing jobs. Take a look at modern warehouse logistics they are pretty fucking cool.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm just pointing this out, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will....

We have machines to do the laundry and dishes for us already. We just have to set them up (put stuff in them) and they do the job for us.

When was the last time you saw someone get out the washing board?

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

That still requires gathering the dirty items together, loading/unloading, keeping track of when it is full/time to run. People saying this mean they want a robot like Rosie from the Jetsons to take care of that sort of housekeeping, not for a machine that makes the task easier to do themself.

Edit: to be clear, I don't think a washer machine or dishwasher is a hassle and problem that needs solving, but that doesn't take away from the message of "AI should help make life easier, not replace the creative outlets additional free time should allow"

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been using a washing board for the past 2 years with occasional trips to the Laundromat. It's rough.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sorry you're going through that.

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 11 points 2 weeks ago

Having lived without a dishwasher for many years, I'm never complaining about loading/unloading the dishwasher. From starting the kettle to finishing a pour over is more than enough time to unload.

And never again having to schlep clothes to the laundromat because we have laundry in our home? Likewise, I'm not going to complain. The only reason laundry takes real effort is when we opt to use the clothesline instead of the dryer.

Not everyone has a dishwasher, washing machine, and clothes dryer, so I absolutely recognize that I'm very fortunate here. And the crazy thing is, these devices aren't even particularly expensive, especially since they can be had used


I think a big reason folks don't have them is the installation+room required. Which probably says something about landlords and the general cost per area of housing.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I really like how Claude emulates specific writing styles so you can troll the living fuck out of some obnoxious self-serious writers in their circle-jerk chats. you drop some flowery shitball in there and they bukkake all over it and never once anyone ever suspected that this thing was AI generated. However, anytime I drop something actually written by humans just slightly out of style for that kind of crowd - they go pitchforks and boiling pitch on it calling it AI slop Antichrist Devil even though it is just something they simply don't like or understand.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I really like doing laundry and dishes tho

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] wondrous_strange@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I always felt that there's something deeply broken about people who enjoy doing dishes

[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

Actually, I get it - there's a kind of humility in doing your own dishes, cleaning up after yourself.

For me at least, now that I get that, I can stay humble without actually doing the work, haha

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 6 points 2 weeks ago

Well that's... quite hurtful

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I enjoy the feeling of the chore being done. You have to do the chore for it to be done, though. Kind of shitty but it is what it is.

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[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yah, cool. Keep doing them. I would rather hand those tasks over though.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you actually enjoy it or just the chance to do something different than you usually do?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do all the dishes in my house and almost all of the laundry. Folding towels is my favorite part.

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[–] Enzyoo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah yes give AI access to the physical world.

What could possibly go wrong?

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Many companies have automatic assembly lines and nothing is wrong, so with just making the laundry it shouldn't be a problem

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

so true. although i shouldn't complain too much because i don't even have a dishwasher i can use and when i find a place it most likely won't have a dishwasher either. And alot of rental units do not like you using those "countertop" dishwashers because of some plumbing issues it can cause.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I personally don't want it to do anything for me if possible, chore wise. When it comes to dishes, I am particular on where certain items go in the dishwasher and where they get put away. I trust absolutely nobody to do dishes but me. I also don't trust anyone to do my laundry either. Especially not a clanker.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
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