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[–] kirkoman@sh.itjust.works 200 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You could say they were gathering intel.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Touche! Nice one!

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 88 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Good for them! I hope they won’t get caught.

More people should rebel and hurt the companies like this. They’re laying people off not because there isn’t work, but because they don’t want to pay. All of the companies doing layoffs are also hiring, only they’ve created a market of desperation so they know they can give workers shitty deals.

Intel and all the other big corpos deserve this.

[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Everybody laid off needs to make new companies together as well. Good ones not on stock market that are unionized

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In cases like this it's reaaaally hard to just start up a new competitor from nothing (assets wise). Building up production is not cheap.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude i made a microprocessor out of some scrap wood and copper wire I found behind a dumpster.

It has a bad habit of catching fire but im pretty sure with a few billion dollars of investment ill be able to create the greatest computer chip ever made

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Here, I'll back you with three fiddy. Now I expect a 1758956% increase of my investment in the next 3 years, else I'll take my money elsewhere.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] survirtual@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

They already thought of that possibility and have taken over the legal system to mitigate. Corporate patents & NDAs will have some complaints.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this is one of those cases of chinese espionage.

Probably has been going on for a long time too.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't really care who is hurting large corporations as long as they're being hurt

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, we don't actually know what was taken.

Depending on the information this could be anything from basic technical information to all the state sponsored backdoor tooling they've implemented across their stack.

The former might "hurt" them on some level if chinese companies steal their designs and sell them as counterfeit, but the latter has security implications for anybody with intel gear from the poorest individuals to the wealthiest companies.

Just saying, you never know how this could impact things down the road.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

In a more sane world they'd reconsider the monstrous fucking back doors

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nah, I think the latter would be great. Sure, short term it could cause issues, though not really for the average person. China will use it to influence politics for those people maybe, but they don't have any large use for it. The US government has far more use for it in regard to them, so that's actually a threat. It would be a risk for the government and western companies.

The benefit of this being lost to China is they'd have to fix what backdoors they can, and maybe reconsider creating new ones. This is a huge benefit to American consumers. It only hurts those who asked for the backdoors in the first place, which is presumably the US government.

I don't live in China, so I'm not really worried about China's government. I live in the US, so I'm worried about the US government.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Zero chance of them not replacing or patching backdoors if another actor gets access.

China having a backdoor into everybody's intel systems is terrible. Nobody should have backdoors into our computers. There are no impartial, apolitical or morally or ethically positive organization out there. Bias is literally everywhere.

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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's just infighting among big corpos, so one corpo's loss is another's gain. Big whoop

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Good. Competition is good for the consumer.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There can be reverse situations (e.g. opportunistic individual delivering hard earned data from an honest company to American criminal groups) so its not black and white.

That being said "reap what you sow" can be a fair and just characterisation.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

honest company

You have better odds finding Sasquatch and a unicorn than you do finding an honest publically traded company.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, no! Someone is going to get what was world leading technology if it was 8 years ago this might be a problem.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not sure what you are refering to.

According to The Mercury News, Jinfeng Luo, who started at Intel in 2014, received a termination notice last July 7th, ending his service with the company at the same month.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They're saying Intel's chips suck compared to the competition now, so the data stolen is for technology that is worse than other chips available already (or soon to be available, depending on what was stolen).

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

My money is on chinas domestic CPU production. They've been pursuing that for a while now, but have always been years behind even Intel. They're the only ones I can think of that would be able to leverage this info to significantly improve.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"cannot be located" lmao homie's on a tropical beach now, suckers

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

More likely Shenzhen. Tropical beaches tend to have extradition treaties. :D

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cuba may not have an extradition treaty with the US, but I somehow doubt you can just arrive there, as a relatively well known person of interest and stay there without giving the local thugs a cut.

I would speculate he is working with the CCP.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It might be nice, but they don't have much of a semiconductor industry to sell the files to.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

my geography's trash cuz I'm an American moron but I thought China had at least a few tropical beaches

They do, yeah

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[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 week ago

Kind of seems like the files aren't that valuable if they're only trying to get $250k. Like that's a large amount of money for most people, but for a big company suing for its IP, that doesn't sound like that much tbh.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago

Intel ~~inside~~ outside.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Hopefully it'll be on the darkweb

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How ho you detect someone stole files nowadays? Did they have them printed out on a bookshelf?

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Every single access is logged on such systems, regardless what kind of file hosting you use.

An employee suddenly accessing tons of files, potentially in indexing order (meaning they're either clicking through every link, every folder, every file, or are using an automated tool that does exactly the same), now that's suspicious.

Combine that with logs from their terminal, which would usually contain things like downloads, file operations, as well as external storage connection/disconnection events, and you can basically get a near perfect map of what they stole and how.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

They knew what they stored it on, so presumably they did it in a company computer, and that computer had logging software that the company got access to (whether it automatically sends it to them or just stores it locally until needed).

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Someone downloading full datasets that would rarely happen in the regular course of work (unless there was special projec tor some sort).

[–] snipingsnipe@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

Full leaks of IME architectures would definitely a 1 on the scoreboard against us and... uh, whoever in the late-2000s/early-2010s believed it to be priority to implement this great technology for everyone! AMD PSP next please.

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