Amsterdam did this, it's great.
We also prioritise bicycle lanes and pedestrians. Getting rid of cars is the best thigns for a city
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Public transport followed by safe cycling lanes are the best way to get people out of cars.
Free, extremely convenient bicycle/motorcycle parking helps too.
Amsterdam arguably has the best public infrastructure, I've done a fair amount of traveling and I can't think of better public infrastructure.
Two ton blocks of steel moving a excessive speeds and making a lot of noise isn't something you want around homes and people.
You might need to spend some time in a city like Amsterdam to understand, I loved cars before I lived here now I feel very differently.
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Many cities in Switzerland are implementing the same, but there is significant opposition from the rural areas. I hope we will arrive at 30km/h in all urban areas.
"We would like to set a speed limit in the cities."
"Yo boss, the people from the countryside are protesting about your law in the cities."
What
How does no one in this thread realise that these "urban areas" speed limits also apply to all the tiny villages that are currently 50kph. In Europe any time you pass a village entry sign you are now in an urban area as far as speed limit goes. PS: I am for the 30kph limits, no qualm there.
kph
Are you from the USA or something? It's km/h.
I mean, that's how I read it, too. It's going to be the default for any urban area, cities of millions, towns of dozens.
But that doesn't stop rural towns from increasing the speed limit by posting a 50kph sign, either where it is reasonable, or overall. When you enter any town/city-limits by car, you need to slow down to 30kph, unless there is a speed sign allowing for higher or lower speeds.
This is literally all a town needs to say "the 30kph limit is nice, but we don't want that":
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Hot take: Rural drivers shouldn't get a say in how urban roads are designed
It's not their city. They don't live in it. They can stay in their town if they don't like it
My thoughts exactly!
They can stay in their town if they donβt like it
Literally no. By definition small towns don't have a lot of things in them, and so the things they do have tend to be pretty basic. If you need specialist medicine, for example, you definitely will have to go to a major city. And that's not even getting into the open countryside people, who exist in at least the less dense European countries.
I mean, you can still hold the position they shouldn't get a say, but not that they can totally opt out of whatever is decided.
If they don't want to live where there is nothing then they shouldn't have chosen to live where there is nothing
Wait? Do you ever eat food? I'm guessing you do. That comes from the middle of nowhere for the most part. Certain other products too.
If you open a history book, it's cities that are optional. Yes, people who choose to be farmers or otherwise live outside of cities have to deal with long commutes to a city when they need something. If they were banned from even doing that, there'd just be starvation.
It's not the farmers that clog up cities' streets
Hmm. What point are you making? Should they stay out of towns or not?
Who is they? Farmers? It doesn't matter. In developed nations less than 1% of the population are farmers. And those few don't drive into the cities every day for work, because why would they.
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More incentive fo bikes and public transit if taking a car is more obnoxious (and safer for pedestrians)
Exactly. We have excellent public transport (possibly the best in the world, tied with Japan) and distances are short because the country is so small.
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Speed limits on roads in built-up and urban areas can only be changed where a majority of the elected members in a local authority vote to do so.
This seems like the balanced approach. That would mean if thereβs an arterial road where a higher speed limit still makes sense they can keep it while deciding to use the lower limit on other streets, right?
On one hand fuck cars on the other hand I would personally want to go faster on an ebike
I've gone faster on a normal bicycle plenty of times and in that case if you don't have a speedo, you may not even know you're breaking the speed limit
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