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[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Installed Mint last week. I already ported most of my personal stuff there ; as a user of FOSS software, it was a breeze. Still dual booting Windows because of work, but I'll start trying to see if I can get the required tools to work on there too.

For now, my biggest issue was that connecting my Bluetooth headphones to both Linux and Windows was fucky but, lo and behold, there was a guide online that told me exactly how to make sure both OS had the same device ID.

It's not a painless experience yet, but it's way less painful than what it was running Win95 back then. And it feels so good to finally flip Microsoft the bird.

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[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 82 points 15 hours ago (30 children)

Oh man, don't read the comments, sad to see the smartasses saying "report back when you install windows again in two months" while getting utterly fucked by Windows.

I mean, I understand being resistant to change but being a fanatic of Windows or anything for that matter just because that's all you know is really ignorant, it's not a sports team for fucks sake, of course it's not easy switching and you will have problems just dont be afraid to ask and read the error warning.

Rant over

I use Windows for work and I miss Win10, I don't like it but I'm aware that's currently the target of most Consumer SW for good reason but that reason is starting to break (say it with me! BAD BUSINESS DECISIONS!!!).

Happy to see Linux getting mainstream, not all comments are bad but I the trolls got me.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 60 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's like do-gooder derogation. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-gooder_derogation )

Someone doing something good? Fuck them. They think they're better than us?? Where do they get off??!?

A lot of people are trash and are emotionally invested in both the way things currently are, and that they are a very good person

[–] dan@upvote.au 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

TIL there's a name for this

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There's a name for everything. There's probably a name for there being a name for everything.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 220 points 18 hours ago (8 children)

BREAKING: Man decides to install Linux.

More details to come.

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 hours ago

Am I the only one annoyed the article is an article about a future article? Like I didn't get anything out of their experience into linux because it's just a pre-article and the user transition experience is what we're interested in.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 37 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I am glad to see articles like this. For too long I have seen articles saying "sick of this windows bullshit??" Only to find advice on workarounds in windows, or suggestions to use a console, or a fucking phone app. For too long Linux has been treated like the evil twin locked in the attic, never to be spoken of or acknowledged.

IT IS TIME! TIME TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE RELEASED THE LINUX AND IT WAS THE GOOD CHILD ALL ALONG! BART WAS THE EVIL ONE AFTER ALL! LET IT BE KNOWN!

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

To be fair (even though I also and both happy and relieved to see articles like this), just because you convert to Linux, that doesn't mean everyone else will. I have used so many guides to help debloat windows computers, and turn off nonsense I don't want (mostly so I can use proprietary software for work). My choice to not use windows in my personal life on my personal devices doesn't really change my situation with needing those guides to help others circumvent windows BS.

I wish we didn't have to live in interesting times and all that, but the guides are helpful.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 74 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

“I deleted the recycling bin folder named /bin/ and it just froze what do I do?”

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

Nothing wrong with Arch as a distro base. The meme stuff is all bullshit. It is a peer of Debian and Fedora. These foundational community distros are not a good starting point for a beginner or for a painless consumerist experience but they are solid for experienced users and have the best support and documentation.

If you are approaching Linux from the PoV of someone who wants to learn rather than someone who wants a reliable consumer computing platform the big community distros are still absolutely the right way to go IMO.

People go on about Mint being friendly for users but under the surface it is Ubuntu which itself is pulling from Debian. People laud Bazzite despite it being Fedora based. ChromeOS is shipping Gentoo to school children. If you package Arch well and ship it to people like Valve has its an extremely pleasant consumer platform. CachyOS improves the arch installation and micro-optimises FPS but you can screw it up as easily as any other mutable Linux system so fundamentally it is not much better or worse than Mint or Ubuntu or Fedora for a consumer experience.

SteamOS, Bazzite and ChromeOS all recognise that immutability is the key to a reliable experience for consumers - an experience that surpasses Windows. Updates are the most likely way to break a system and the hardest thing for non expert users to troubleshoot and rectify. Immutable distros with good support for new hardware have to be the S tier choice for Windows refugees. I have never tried Bazzite and likely never will (I use arch btw, with one system being a cachyos hybrid) but on paper it seems like the most sane choice barring a general release of StreamOS. A distro like Mint might be user friendly but it is bringing nothing new to the table when it comes to a reliable experience for consumers.

The real solution for the majority of WIndows refuges is going to be pre-installs with the supplier guaranteeing all the hardware is supported like Steam Machine. That way you get rid of all the cursed Nvidia systems. I think something like PopOS is the wrong way to do it for normies as the old LTT videos demonstrated, it is still a fragile system for naive users underneath the friendly skin.

[–] freedom@lemy.lol 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think you need to revisit a modern Debian 13.x distro. From install to hardware support with effortless kde plasma and a stable software level easily extensible with flatpak, it's what Ubuntu was 10 years ago.

Anyone who says to avoid it today, especially with the AI and rocm/cuda apt packages that just work out of the box, I'm convinced haven't considered it from an eager beginner perspective in recent form.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I still use Debian all the time. Have for over quarter of a century. I develop in a debian container and run Debian in production. For years I used unstable, pinning etc on desktop/laptop and can make Debian work on modern hardware. I tried arch and was suprised how much I liked it. It is a very vanilla upstream experience. The Debian maintainers have added a lot of baggage over time and some of it annoys the hell out of me (particularly when they add shit patches to ssh). Otherwise it might have been my distro for life.

All Linux regular distros give the user complete control over their system (as they should) and that can be a problem for people coming from Windows. Microsoft had to protect them from deleting their system directory because it turns out people are actually that stupid. People like Linus Sebastian get views telling a Youtube audience of millions how one command made his Linux install unusable. And it is a legit criticism for a typical Windows refugee. We need to re-learn all the shit Microsoft discovered over the last 30 years about what complete morons their users can be because we never cared about that. Linux was for power users and destroying your system a right of passage.

Our football team preferences make no difference to Windows refugees. They want a game console experience, an android/ios experience. Something better than the shitshow that is Windows. We can do that. I have never used Bazzite and it might be shit but they are trying to address those users. SteamOS and ChromeOS do a very good job providing a safe install for non-technical users based on arch and gentoo. The base distro ultimately doesn't matter as much as we think it does. The differences between Ubuntu and Debian aren't that huge. But you ship updates as a signed immutable root with a fallback to the previous install and run everything else out of user storage and your in consumer appliance territory.

I'm an experienced Linux user, I put Bazzite on my old machine that I'm using as an HTPC.

It's imperfect. The install process is quite brittle, especially if you're doing something as mundane as "I want the OS on this SSD and my home folder on that SSD".

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[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

What's the easiest and most secure linux distro for a non-techie? This is for a spare thinkpad I want to try linux on.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Mint. Cinnamon is great. MATE if you have a less powerful computer. XFCE for potatoes.

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Mint is great, but if you have a touchscreen ThinkPad like I do and actually like to use the touchscreen a lot, Mint is very hit or miss.

I installed Fedora with Gnome and it works beautifully with the touchscreen.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

I've installed mint, pop os and Ubuntu. TBH if it's a spare, just download one and give it a go.

I really just play games and use a browser, so it's been easy peasy for me. Look into making a partition for /home if you feel like you'll swap around it makes it pretty easy. Then you can try a few out without too much of an issue.

[–] Darkness343@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (3 children)
[–] collar@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Good mix of usability and learning curve. You will need terminal, but that's never been easier with AI assistants to learn how. Plenty of support for applications or open source workarounds. It also is familiar enough to use rather quickly, but not so much that it feel like a Windows clone. Highly recommend starting with Ubuntu.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 hours ago

That's going to vary based on your definition of 'secure', and in my experience, most distros are very secure, it's usually the user that ends up messing the security up.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If you going to install Linux, install something basic like Ubuntu, fedora, mint and pop is!
Now tons of people will start searching for cachyos, because the vegre did.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

After breaking my hard drive with Bazzite not understanding immutability and trying to bypass it with permissions changes,I switched to Garuda as a beginner. It's Arch based.

It has been easy, gaming just works, updates just work, it came with the drivers I need.

All this Arch hate needs to go away. It's not what it was. I haven't had to learn anything more complicated than Windows was.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The most successful Linux distros are ones that normal people are not aware they use at all. Most people dont install operating systems, they just use whatever comes with the device. To them its an appliance.

Android is a flavor of Linux and is widely successful. Ive seen libraries use Linux and a browser and the machines worked for decades. And there are quite a few Amazon tablets, ebook readers, etc... all using linux.

Theres a never ending number of examples out there.

[–] tauonite@lemmy.world 32 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Are you suggesting we should break into people's homes and discreetly install Linux on their computers? Because I'm in

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I think we need a new worm

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not going to dwell on how annoying it is that it took people THIS LONG to get off the Windows train. I'm just happy to see the world changing for the better.

Welcome to civilization, new Linux users!

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Probably due to gaming. Its amazing I can get adult foreign novel games to work on Linux through proton. It just works nowadays when back in the day, you had to tinker with wine and winetricks for so long. That was the last hurdle for me to overcome the barrier of using Linux.

I mean, Ubisoft and EA both still have business models, somehow. It's kinda wild what people will put up with.

There's a whole bunch of academic shitware that doesn't work on Linux. Last time I was in college the math textbook came with a code to a website that wanted to install some Wolfram thing, I dropped out again, shit like that.

A lot of engineering software and CAD isn't present. You just turn up to the town council with the bridge you've designed in FreeCAD. See how that works out.

Business software is a wild ride. It's some mishmash of Windows software, AS400 software, web portals and iPad apps. I genuinely don't know if I could rent a storefront downtown, fill it with merchandise, and successfully run a business with nothing but x86 machines running Linux.

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[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago (11 children)

"...Based on listening to two and a half episodes of Dual Boot Diaries and a brief text conversation with Will, I’m going to install CachyOS, an Arch-based distro optimized for gaming on modern hardware, with support for cutting-edge CPUs and GPUs and an allegedly easy setup..."

One of the most important lessons I learned from using Linux: Follow the packs, use the distros that a lot of people use not just some recommendation on some ranking sites / youtube vids. Ffs, might as well use vanilla Arch at that point so you can find answers faster. . Even Mint or Ubuntu LTS is a solid option.

The problem with new distros is that it is very hard to find answers to problems. General questions? Sure you can find help. Some bugs that mess up your system? You better pray to the GNU Gods that your distro spins are not that different from the original, e.g. Regolith's i3wm vs normal i3wm....

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago

CachyOS is basically vanilla Arch, from a resource point of view. They have their own repos, but they just mirror the arch repos. The arch wiki fully applies. For the very few special things, there is documentation (basically a few notes on gaming related performance options).

So why use it? Carter it's trivial to install, and everything you need is preconfigured to just work with sane defaults. Installing it is like Mint or Ubuntu. But it uses optimized repos according to your available CPU instruction set, and optimized proton and wine (their own). Games just work (even more so than they already do generally), and are faster. Programs are faster (where it matters). But you don't need to do anything for that, it's just there by default.

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