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[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I desperately wanted to get a degree in mechanical engineering so I could go to work for an arms company (like Heckler & Kock, FN Herstal, etc.). Never happened, got an art degree instead. Then I met a guy that owns a very small firearms company, and, well, yeesh. It's a brutally hard business. He makes a good product, he has good morals and ethics, but the market is so saturated that anyone smaller than the largest arms companies are hemorrhaging money. Glad I didn't try to live my dream now.

I may not like what governments do with arms, but good goddamn, the arms themselves are neat.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 minutes ago

“He has good morals and ethics”

How could he possibly if he has devoted his life to creating weapons? What’s his response if and when his guns are used for violence, be it murder, suicide, armed robbery, etc? Even if he is “small time” for “enthusiasts” of the “sport” it is only a matter of time until this occurs. How does he reconcile this? That it’s not the guns fault? Just the glamorization of them, the obscene amount of them, the fact that they are readily available, pushing it onto “mental health”, or some other scapegoat that allows him to escape accountability for facilitating mortal violence.

I hope your friend goes out business and his entire industry collapses.

[–] rami@ani.social 1 points 44 minutes ago

I find that there's a lot of overlap between people who like engines, clocks, and guns. They're all machines with a concrete goal, harnessing an incredible force in a very controlled way, through precise, complex mechanisms and allow near complete freedom on how exactly you achieve that goal. There's a beauty to it that's hard to find anywhere else.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 24 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Defense industry, law enforcement, and surveillance are all instant dealbreakers for me whenever a recruiter reaches out to me. And sadly that seems like the vast majority of positions for which recruiters are looking for candidates.

That or AI shit.

I'm so tired of the tech industry.

[–] crapwittyname@feddit.uk 1 points 50 minutes ago

Science grad with 10 years engineering experience. I had to turn down a lot of jobs before I found one that didn't involve killing people. It took two years. I'm paid about half of what I could get if I sold my morals. Totally worth it.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Depending on engineering discipline, oil & gas is another common one.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

There's positive tech stuff out here too, bud. You'll likely need to look for yourself though, the recruiter reaching out to you is better funded for some reason.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think anyone with an engineering degree would believe there's a hell. Neither should you.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Although I can imagine what hell would look like: commuting for 1h to sit in an office that has more people than desks to have a zoom meeting over VPN with flaky wifi and AC that is set to overheat whoever sits under the vent and under heat everyone further.

Oh did I tell you that meeting could have been an email? And the coffee machine broke yesterday. And there's a bathroom queue.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Well, tomorrow morning, commuting hell will be sitting next to me. I don't know what those samosas had in them but I sound like a WWII machine gun nest and smell like aisle 3 at the spice store.

there’s probably an infinite number of paths, and an even greater number of perspectives to be considered across each moment and position along each of them. or absolutely nothing at all. most other possibilities seem so unlikely, they probably aren’t worth considering

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 8 points 10 hours ago

Instructions unclear, I work at a prosthetics company.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Look man, making missile killing lasers is just way more interesting than building another pointless SUV to a price target.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not an engineer, but I have I have Asian parents, if I were an engineer and worked for a genocidal dictator, they wouldn't care, that's success anyways.

So... yea...

people value success over ethics

welcome to life

society...

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Wouldn't they still be disappointed that you are an engineer and not a doctor?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 7 hours ago

what are engineers, if not machine doctors?

[–] nagaram@startrek.website 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Gods, I'm considering Job hopping and I saw Lockheed was hiring for my role, less experience, less certs, full remote, and quadruple my pay.

I had to block them on indeed and LinkedIn. I hated that I was considering it.

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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is why I focused on graphics hardware for so long.... Then some arsehole came up with running AI on GPUs.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yeah, I got started in silicon thinking cheaper, faster, more power efficient chips would be a net benefit to the world... Then we became a social media surveillance state and AI dogshit is just the icing on the cake.

Now I drink to forget we're boiling the oceans to ruin society. One day this capitalist hellscape will end.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

To quote Casually Explained:

"The only real question engineering students and new grads need to know the answer to is 'When is it ok to violate your moral principles?'

...

Exactly. It has to be at least 6 figures."

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 185 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That moment when you quit the arms company and joined the legs company:

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 42 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I just use my skills to make gooner games. My soul is pure. To heaven I shall go. Unironically.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I would like to goon to some of your games

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 132 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works 27 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I may be an engineer, but I am still too fucking stupid to get a job at an arms company

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It’s easier than you’d think. The applicant pool doesn’t tend to be the best and brightest.

[–] nagaram@startrek.website 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

One of the guys I went to college with is an amazing programmer and had such a great understanding of C that hes why i got as far into CS as i did, couldn't get a job after grad because 1) Covid and more importantly 2) he's insufferable.

He got a job making $100k a year for I wanna say Lockheed because he quote "Wrote good looking code". That's all they needed because Tue DoD already told them that the project he was hired for was not going to be adopted, but they were still contracted for minimum 2 more years of development and Lockheed would be in breach of contract if they weren't making progress even though it was already Dead.

The Military industrial complex is JUST a grift to put tax dollars in private hands.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

He got a job making $100k a year

$100k per year writing code at a defence contractor isn't very much.

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[–] jof@lemmy.world 76 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yea I'm an LGBTQ+ ally:

The ally they're talking about:

L ockheed Martin

G eneral Dynamics

B AE

T exas Instruments

Q inetiq

"our hiring system is even less discriminatory than our targeting system!" -their motto, probably

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[–] for_some_delta@beehaw.org 11 points 15 hours ago

I have no ethical qualms with those who make weapons. Horizontal communities need the means to defend themselves against external domination. The dilemma is, under capitalism, dominators employ weapons against those unable to defend themselves thereby realizing the idea of Hell on Earth.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's almost winter, I thinks it's freaking cold today.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Almost? Tell that to the snowstorm that attacked me yesterday.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

It's still autumn for 18 more days, unless you're on the southern hemisphere.

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